Immediately below is a link to the definitive serial number summary sheet the Recreatives Industries General Manger created and Mudd-Ox had access to. Clearly serial number 17126 falls in the range of a 2000 model - no question about this.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwo...ew?usp=sharing
Muddox also had all the binders of historical MAX sales records, ordered by serial number and build year, that the data for this summary sheet was derived from. Even if they didn't look at the summary sheet, all someone had to do was open the binder that had the range of serial numbers containing 17126 to clearly see what year it was. We did this all the time at Recreatives - even while a customer was waiting on the phone! Not difficult to do at all...
In addition, Mudd-Ox inherited ALL computer records from Recreatives - and Recreatives even had a simple little serial number lookup program that Mudd-Ox inherited, and were told about, and apparently decided not to use.
So it would have been a simple matter for Muddox to look-up a serial number to see what the build year was - if they wanted too.....
The inventory sheet from Recreatives that Muddox presented proves nothing - that showed just a simple summary value of all vehicles - clearly stated as new or demo - that was transferred to Muddox. The demo vehicles were a mix of varying model years, and Muddox was made aware of this, as Jay Wallach and senior management at RI in no way wanted legal trouble related to misrepresenting model years of vehicles. The reason the columns say "2013 Qty" and "2013 cost" is simply because this is a physical tally of inventory completed in 2013. Anybody with any level of business acumen would know this.
In fact - there is a smoking gun in the inventory sheet presented by Muddox that undermines their story and their credibility - if you look you'll see, seven rows above the "MAXDEMOS" part number IV-950T17126" indicated all by itself - SEPERATE AND DISTINCT FROM THE "MAXNEW" ROW, WHICH IS DESCRIBED AS "ALL NEW VEHICLES, COMPLETE, NEW".
So the MAX IV with serial number 17126 WAS NOT REPRESENTED TO MUDDOX AS MANUFACTURED IN 2013 - the Recreatives guys were honest to Muddox in the company sale.
So anybody who can read, and wanted to know the truth, only had to look at the inventory sheet provided to Muddox, which Muddox then presented in this thread as evidence of their "honesty"
Or the serial number summary sheet Muddox was given by Recreatives.
Or the binders of MAX sales by year and serial number Muddox was given by Recreatives.
Or the computer records and convenient serial number lookup program Muddox was given by Recreatives.
And Mudd-Ox still screwed this up.
Deception, incompetence, or both?
Never had this trouble when MAX was made in Buffalo by Recreatives Industries - a pattern of behavior is emerging here...
Be careful folks and call the historic MAX phone number 1-800-255-2511 if you need info on a used MAX or you need OEM parts - the new MAX owners are re-building the parts supply chain and they are good people who know the real story of MAX...
Last edited by Hey_Dan; 04-08-2017 at 07:20 PM.
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