09 avenger 700 bad stuck bearing and crank jackshaft bearing

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Thread: 09 avenger 700 bad stuck bearing and crank jackshaft bearing

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    09 avenger 700 bad stuck bearing and crank jackshaft bearing

    First argo avenger 700 bought a month ago new
    Getting ready for a alaskan adventurer soon
    Then 3 days ago came across one here in the village that was a steal
    Bought it for a back up rig and now we going to get it ready to go in pairs
    Hood missing
    Hard top.
    Tracks
    In good shape by looking at it
    Noticed front left inner bearing destroyed, no ballbearing
    Starting taking the shaft out. Inner race stuck on there like its welded to it
    Cut the race off with a dremal cut off wheel
    Then i said to my self. If ones bad. Im ganna replace all
    On one side had to cut bearing off with dremal
    Then Ill work on the otherside next.
    So far this sucks
    Argo needs a better system here. Not just a HD upgrade
    Im thinking a roller inner bearing type with thrust bearing in one
    Bearing housing instead of these flanges
    The forces are to high for this
    Enough of the beaching
    Tranny jack shafts. One is flopping around Drivers side
    This calls for the experienced fellows that can guide me in the right way of doing these
    I was told by Argo rep Ed to take tranny out is the easiest way
    I will atemp this task when the weather gets better
    Raining in the Arctic so early
    I will leave tracks off unless theres snow
    Take wheel extentions off due to long leverage
    Forces that seams to be the destroyer of these cheesy bearing housings
    Also noticed the setscrew walking the shaft , digging a ditch that has to be filed down before you can slide the front bearing off. Right off the flats huh.
    This tells me they need to drill 3/32 hole on 4 sides of the shaft and add more setscrews
    To much forces to this size bearing. HD or not
    Tony

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    Talk to Adair Argo about a UHMW super bearings for each axle. Just a big piece of composite that bolts to the inside of the regular bearing and (they say) will never wear out. If the bearing fails the axle will ride on the UHMW with out issues. Next time I need to replace a bearing the UHMW super bearing will be bolted to the regular bearing. Forum member Noel Woods has run them on his machines. He would be a good person to talk with. I have a set out in my shade somewhere.

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    Thanks. Yeh I was looking at those
    And wondering how they worked

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    You don't have to remove the tranny to change the idler shafts bearings.
    This is the way I do it.
    Split the duplex driven chains
    split the idler chains
    slacken the power pack bolts
    jack up with 9/16 spanner, take care as exhaust etc will rise
    You will then have enough room to undo the inner bearing flanges
    Undo outer idler bearing flanges and the idler shaft will come out.
    When refitting I always put the non greasable flange half on the fixed studs and put the greasable flange and bearing on the shaft.

    Hope this helps you.

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    Thanks alot. Yeh. Been real busy. Got the tranny out had to cut one thanny bolt
    Yeh! I needed to take it out to clean it up and also give me room.
    This winter. Its all coming out again. Will replace sprockets and chains as well as a HD bearing upgrade
    I will use your tecknic then.
    Out of all the shafts. 6 of the inner bearing had to dremal them off. What a pain. Im a mill mechanic at a lead and zinc mine
    Out of 18 years. I never went through this type of labor ����
    One good thing though. My first Argo is the 700. 25 grand
    Second argo 2009 700 for 2500 with tracks and hardtop
    I sure will pay attention on greasing them and pamper dis beach now
    No mistreating it. I like to take care of my toys
    All shafts are out and waiting on tuesday when the shipment come in. 500 miles by air only to the nearest mc donalds and Argo dealer

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    Hi Tony. I recognize the Misskimo alias. Don Ferguson here. Good to see you signed up to this site. Plenty of experienced Argo owners here.
    I too had to replace a bearing on the driver side jack shaft and front axle bearings on our 2005 Avenger after we bought it. Pain in the arse to do both. I also had to dremeled a bearing off. I'll have to drop by and check out your Argos.
    I highly recommend you grease all bearings every ten hours. And lube all the chains before each ride. You'll be glad you did.
    Argo Adventure | Argo Atv | Argo Parts
    Much cheaper prices than Anchorage.
    Stand for the Flag. Kneel for the Cross.

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    Hey Don. Hey. I been talking with Ed there. Nice Guy. Sure a big help on advice too
    Yeh. This used 700 here has only 98 hours on it. 700 miles
    I dont think They did nothing to it but add gas a go with tracks on
    1 jackshaft riding on inner race only aswell as 2 right front and right 3rd axile with no ball bearing what so ever

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    This past early winter we seen this Avenger pass by our place. I hate to think the driver drove the machine with busted bearings. You got a very good deal on it though. A fine machine once you get it done.
    Stand for the Flag. Kneel for the Cross.

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    Yeh. Its a steal forsure
    How of yall slap on the inner bearing with flanges and tighten the bolts. Then slid the shaft in and put on the sprokets. Then lift shaft up and find the bearing and slid it on in.
    Works like a charm doing it this way

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    Works like a charm? You're having too much fun with this rebuild. Its supposed to cause you headaches, make you cuss and spit, throw tools all over the yard, and insist your trading it in for a quad. Pretty soon everyone will be bringing their Argos over to you for work!
    Stand for the Flag. Kneel for the Cross.

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