Wisdom of replacing axle spiral pins with bolts?

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Thread: Wisdom of replacing axle spiral pins with bolts?

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    Wisdom of replacing axle spiral pins with bolts?

    I have read a couple of older posts where guys recommend replacing the spiral pins on the front axles on the old Argos with bolts. I can understand how this could ease keeping her running in the field, but I assume the pins were designed to be a cheap "weak link" in the system? Or were they just cheap ?
    The old Argo 8 wheeler I bought had about 50 broken ones in the belly pan & came with a box of replacements.
    I like the idea of replacing with bolts, but will this be likely to cause breakage somewhere else in the system, possible something much harder to replace on the trail & more expensive? I have heard grade 8 5/16" bolts, 2 bolts, grade 5, etc. I have double #50 chain.
    I need opinions & experience here as this is my first foray into the Argo world. If I replace should I just replace on front axle, or all axles?
    HELP!!!!!

    By the way, I bought a parts argo & it had bolts in all axles....

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    Argos slightly newer than yours have splined axles and sprockets. Most of the drive train ,chain ect is the same. Pinned axles are a PITB. I see a lot of older argos with the long front axles double keyed. Pretty good fix for them them. Installing spline axles and sprockets is the best fix but very spendy$$. I have one friend with an oldie that has drilled all his holes to 3/8"(requires pulling chains) and cuts the side of heads off to install. He drills the end and tie wires them in. Uses grade 8 bolts and claims he is down to a couple a year from several pins a day. Just for more info the older MAX used 7/16" bolts to hold the sprockets on to 1.25 " axles and they also broke frequently. good luck

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    If an axle bolt is body bound it will work just fine. If there is any slop in the pin/axle/sprocket assembly or your threads are hitting the sprocket or axle on the pin, you will regularly break the pins.
    l like to buy stuff and no I don't do payments!

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    I was in the same boat, allways braking and replacing the pins. I drilled another hole at 90 deg to the factory one and just added another pin. So far its been 8 years and have not had a problem...touch wood now!

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    Thanks for the input guys. Sounds like there is no down side so that's probably the way I will go. I will try & find bolts with a long enough shoulder that there are no threads in the contact areas.

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    I always buy longer grade 8 bolts and cut them down.
    l like to buy stuff and no I don't do payments!

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