Originally Posted by
Sparx
I'm sorry but you must not have ever even spent a day on Escargo tracks, they actually do the opposite to what you say about derailing easy. They are very hard to derail even with improper tire pressure due to their design. What pictures would you like to prove this? Buzz and I have both had great success with these tracks due to the reason they are hard to slip off, so your suggestion could use some pictures to prove otherwise.
One thing you have to remember with tuners is that most people buy these AFTER they had issues with their machines. So if you get them in your shop to work on yeah it wouldn't be surprising to see damaged sprockets and chains already even with track tuners on. The track tuners don't repair previous damage from improper setup. Buzz knows his stuff and has proven over times via Youtube many videos to support the benefits of the track Tuners. Do you have any solid information to prove otherwise your claims other then some worn sprockets and chains and even frame damage caused solely by these track tuners?
Also, if these beadlocks are supposedly not designed for tracks why would they put an offset on the rim specifically for them? You better send out a bulletin to all the dealers that already have the Rubber tracks on their beadlock units in their showrooms too. Actually it just sounds like you need to work for Argo directly and be their spokeperson. LOL
Adair makes full steel wheel spacers to work with any track setup, 2.5 or 3" wide. They incorporate the grease hole and they are bullet proof when torqued properly and used with their track tuners.
No offense, but it sounds like you are struggling to understand the concept of beadlocks and don't really understand their purpose at all. It's not simply for low pressure, it's primary purpose is to keep the beads onto the rim irregardless of pressure, not simply low pressure. So no, they are not made for low pressure, but allow more secure low pressure use. I was running 2psi in my tires without beadlocks without issue, but obviously I didn't have the security of beadlocks, so you don't NEED these for only this purpose. By all means they are safe to use with tracks. The only issue they could pose is that they cause a wider tire casing section and would promote more sidewall contact to the track guides because of where they clamp on the outside of the rim due to the beadlock nature. It would just cause a tighter fit and more wear, but doesn't seem like Argo sees an issue with this if they are filling their showroom with mounted units.
The reason track tuners work so great is because they allow in variances in tire pressures. So unless you check your tire pressures before every ride and can garauntee your customer has measured and properly placed their tires accordingly, they will be off. Track tuners help tolerate these differences and prevent further wear and tear. So when you setup your machine at +15C in your shop you know you are still good to go when you bring it outside at -15C in winter. Even more so if your machine is older and you have slow leaks in your tires. Nothing shows and explains this better then when rental companies rent Argo's. They rarely receive the proper treatment at any level. They get abused with rubber tracks and that's where all the wear and tear comes from on sprockets and chains and even bent frames. The reason Argo's get the bad rep that they are so hard to maintain is because of this reason of not being setup properly. Track tuners take half the headache out of this issue when used with tracks. They make it easier to steer and less stressful on the drivetrain so less wear. So does that mean you won't believe me unless I take pics of my chains and sprockets that look like new after 1000kms? LOL
If beadlocks were meant for low pressure only you should let all the automotive off-road trucks know they are in the wrong business making these rims for full size pickups.
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