ARGO Conquest to HDI Bearing Conversion (Vids)

[Rock Doctor]

Well, I finally got this little project started. I think everything is going to work out good, but there is still some testing to do. I ran into a couple little issues, but nothing that can't be dealt with.

Sorry about the length of the vids, it was hard to keep the time down on a project like this. I have only uploaded the first part so far, but PT-2 will be edited into this post tomorrow if possible.

I have to say here that I'm NOT SURE if this will work with ALL Conquests. I have noted that some older Conquests have different Bearing Extensions. Mine has the ones that require both the inner and outer bearing retainer when mounting Bearings in the bearing extensions. Some Conquests bearing extensions have the inner bearing retainer built into the bearing extensions. It may work, it may not. To find out what you have, look at your machines front/rear bearing extension assemblies. If you only see one gasket behind your outer bearing retainers, you have built in INNER bearing retainers. If you see 2 gaskets with a plate between, you have the same assemblies as mine.

PART-1 (Front/Rear Axle Conversion)


PART-2 (Mid Axle Conversion)



RD

[Mike]

Thank you for taking the time to document this for everyone. I will copy this to the how-to section when you get part two up.

[Rock Doctor]

Thank you for taking the time to document this for everyone. I will copy this to the how-to section when you get part two up.

Ummm Where exactly is the "How To Section" ??. I know I've been there before, but can't seem to find it now. Is there a link to it in the Forum?

[Mike]

You can get to it at the very bottom of every page or on the home page on the left hand side. All of the how-to's, literature, brochures, etc. got moved to the front page of the site after the upgrade. Thanks again for posting these.

[martwell]

Hello RD, really great video's Thanks for taking the time to show us how it's done, seem to be very easy to do when we watch you.

Martwell

[Pophamrt1]

Nice work, excellent video. A couple of questions. On the standard Hdi installs at dealers, etc., do they use any silicone or other sealant around the bearing? And, if you were to fabricate an aluminum shim/adapter for the front/rear instead of stacking the cork, what thickness would you make it? 3/8"? Or 1/4" plus a gasket to allow compression, or some other combination. If I end up making some I'll send a set your way.

[JohnF]

I have noted that some older Conquests have different Bearing Extensions. ... Some Conquests bearing extensions have the inner bearing retainer built into the bearing extensions. ...
RD

Was looking through the parts manuals. It looks like machines before 6/02 have the integrated inner retainers.

I plan on getting an inner retainer from the HD and checking to see if there is a way to make this work - someday. If anyone gets a chance and find the answer here it would be awesome hear about it here.

(oh yeah, mine's a '98)

[Pophamrt1]

Can the HDI bearing be tracked back to a standard SKF, Timken, etc., part number? (e.g., HC206-20). The last two Vampire ASXs were mounted on the Avenger last week and I'm feeling some play in the outer bearings. It would be nice to source the bearings from a supplier if possible. Thanks.

[DerekF]

Just bumping this topic to the top again. I have a couple of bearing with a little play and am going to upgrade. Hows the conversion working for you RD? By the way, thanks again for the vid.

Pophamrt1, I also have vampires on my avenger. I live them for situations between reg tires and where I would use tracks. How do you like yours?

[Rock Doctor]

Was looking through the parts manuals. It looks like machines before 6/02 have the integrated inner retainers.

I plan on getting an inner retainer from the HD and checking to see if there is a way to make this work - someday. If anyone gets a chance and find the answer here it would be awesome hear about it here.

(oh yeah, mine's a '98)

Hi John,
I have NOT converted one of the older bearing extensions, but I have looked at trying one. I believe that it can be done. A good machinest could do it with ease. I THINK I could do it with a dremmel and a good carbide bit. It would be similar to enlarging the holes on the mid axles, but you would be shaving off aluminium instead of plastic.

Can the HDI bearing be tracked back to a standard SKF, Timken, etc., part number? (e.g., HC206-20). The last two Vampire ASXs were mounted on the Avenger last week and I'm feeling some play in the outer bearings. It would be nice to source the bearings from a supplier if possible. Thanks.

I have one here:
RHP T1035-1.1/4G=102 65

This is the only info on the bearing, and the price through ODG is (IIRC) about $18.00

Just bumping this topic to the top again. I have a couple of bearing with a little play and am going to upgrade. Hows the conversion working for you RD? By the way, thanks again for the vid.

Pophamrt1, I also have vampires on my avenger. I live them for situations between reg tires and where I would use tracks. How do you like yours?

Your welcome
So far, so good.
I should mention one thing. Just last week a friend called me to see if I had any bearings left over from my conversion. (Same friend that I helped out when he packed too much load and wore holes through his tub, rubbing on the back tires). He said one of his front bearings is on it's way out. I'm a little concerned about that, but have not followed up on it.
It shouldn't be too much longer, and I will probably have my tracks on for the winter......That will be when the true TESTING starts


RD