Joe's 252 Colt Trail Machine "Gadget"

  1. Welcome to 6x6 World.

    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

    If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. Looking forward to seeing you in the forums and talking about AATVs!
+ Reply to Thread
Page 4 of 13 FirstFirst ... 2 3 4 5 6 ... LastLast
Results 31 to 40 of 122

Thread: Joe's 252 Colt Trail Machine "Gadget"

  1. #31
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Buffalo, NY area
    Posts
    2,968
    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMeg View Post
    I bought one of the "Tomahawk" driven units from Don. That is what I plan on using for a secondary.

    Joe.
    I don't know if all of the T-hawk drivens were the same, but some of them required mouting the drive clutch backwards on the engine shaft to match the driven's centerline. It's a stock setup, so it shouldn't require any spacing mods, but just an FYI in case you hadn't seen them installed before.

    With the drive clutch installed backwards, you have to push forward for reverse and turn left for right, but you get used to it pretty quickly.

    <kidding>


  2. #32
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Northern VA
    Posts
    2,766
    I think the T'hawk was designed that way so the drive clutch clears the chain on the four chain set. The driven was reversed to open the same direction as the drive. I think that was the.only way to make the taller OH160 fit under the engine cover.
    Stuck in the seventies- not in the swamp.

    (6) Attex, a Hustler, a Super Swamp Fox, (2) Tricarts, (3) Tri-sports, a Sno-co trike, 3 Dunecycles, and a Starcraft! ...so far

  3. #33
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Cleveland,Oh.
    Posts
    1,589
    The latest undertaking has been lower tub repairing with glass cloth and ABS goo. Seems to be going quite well. If this stuffs bond is as good as it is easy to do,I should be in good shape.Upon giving this machine the once over when I received it,I was so intimidated by the holes in the lower tub that I bought the second one (the "PA mach") on ebay thinking it would be a better start. Turns out it was a whole lot more hammered than the "MI" body I'm working on now. This has been a great learning experience of which I see some knowledge aquired applying to my hustler build. There was a large crack in the bow so i leveled it off to patch it





    Joe.

  4. #34
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Buffalo, NY
    Posts
    6,442
    So far, so good, Joe. At least the bodies aren't as bad as the one on Drew's Colt that he built into a racer. Drew did a GREAT job patching that thing up, and it looks great. If you need more pieces of yellow ABS, I have a lot more.
    "Looks like you have a problem with your 4 wheeler........you're missin' two wheels there"

  5. #35
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Cleveland,Oh.
    Posts
    1,589
    So now it's time for something a little more challenging. The left rear corner will be the first victim. The orig material is very thin in this corner from the forming process,it's no wonder it failed. I would like to cover it up and still maintain as much an outside radius as possible. Using an idea gleened from a fiberglass repair video (here's the connection to my Hustler build), I discovered the acetone does not affect plastic food wrap. I took a ball of shop towels and a piece of glad wrap and propped it up on the inside to "shore" things up.




    This is after 3 layers of glass cloth and abs goo



    This is the second repair,wish I'd of done this on the first but,hey,gotta start somewhere. This is the crack in the left front corner.



    I thought to clean it up a little and round it off a bit also.



    A suitable pc of glass cloth



    First layer complete



    Fixing up the rub thru from the clutch



    Stay tuned,lots more to come,

    Joe.

  6. #36
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Cleveland,Oh.
    Posts
    1,589
    Been working on cleaning the chosen frame up a little. Starting to notice subtle differences from the frame in Giz. I took a peek last nite just to refresh my memory (that never did work too well). One is the diff between the round vs square tubing the rear chain adjusters are mounted to (Team Attex pointed that one out to me ). Another thing I noticed are no "big" holes on the inner frame rails where the brg flanges mount,just the two flange bolt holes. The OEM units are a flush mount type,1" bore with 3 1/4" bolt spacing. I would like to ask (to avoid using the search function that I am totally challenged by,lol), What are we using at this position for new bearings? Also,my original thought was a question about the frame "designations". What are the 1972 frame in 252 Colt and the one in Gizmo that has the sq. tubes and "holes" on the inner frame rails,being referred to as, Thanks,

    Joe.
    Last edited by JoeMeg; 01-08-2013 at 10:24 AM.

  7. #37
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Buffalo, NY area
    Posts
    2,968
    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMeg View Post
    I would like to ask (to avoid using the search function that I am totally challenged by,lol), What are we using at this position for new bearings?
    Joe, you lazy bum.

    So on this frame we're talking about, you don't have the larger holes that allow the use of the two-piece pressed flange. You're going to use a one-piece stamped steel bearing flange that the bearing just presses into, correct? In that case, a Fafnir/Torrington YA100RR inner bearing (or equivalent) will do the trick.

    31H8UAk4zjL.jpg

    Note that it has a flat outer race, and set screws versus an eccentric locking collar.

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMeg View Post
    Also,my original thought was a question about the frame "designations". What are the 1972 frame in 252 Colt and the one in Gizmo that has the sq. tubes and "holes" on the inner frame rails,being referred to as, Thanks,

    Joe.
    I don't know if this ever came to discussion in our monthly newsletter, but heck; I just call them a 4 chain or a 6 chain frame. Of course, the six chain frame with the round bars on the back is easily converted to a "4 chain" setup with the appropriate chain adjusters that you have on the frame here:



    Nice work with the goo-n-glass, by the way....

    Mike

  8. #38
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Cleveland,Oh.
    Posts
    1,589
    Thanks Mike! I can't figure out how to search for something like "inner bearing" or "inner frame rail",can only search out one word at a time. If that is the limit for the search func,I will certainly accept lazy over challenged

    Yes, I'm familiar with YA100RR, the "4 chain" frame in Giz uses the RRB spherical OD version with back to back flanges. Do we re-use the "6 chain" OEM inner flanges and just install new brg units in them? (figured I'd ask before I break). As of now,the unit of this type I'm finding is a Faf/Tor "LFST" series however,these have a 3 5/8" bolt hole spacing.

    I've heard the terms 1st. Gen Attex, 2nd Gen Attex (something to this effect) being used and was just wondering if this was some specific to the frames or what.

    Thanks for the compliment on the glass & goo. That stuff is super easy to work with and the results are impressive. I would certainly encourage anyone thinking about taking on this type of project to go for it! Repairing these ABS plastic bodies was my greatest intimidation but is turning out to be a very rewarding experience.

    Joe.

  9. #39
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Buffalo, NY area
    Posts
    2,968
    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMeg View Post
    the "4 chain" frame in Giz uses the RRB spherical OD version with back to back flanges.
    Yup; You can press the bearings out of the flanges and install new ones. Most times, they seem to come out quite easily with a few taps of a hammer. As long as the new ones press (hammer) in snugly, you won't need any other special preparation on them. Don't get too ambitious about repainting the backside (inside) of the flanges too much during your restore. That little bit of paint makes a big difference in clearance. You might not have any issue, but just as a forethought......

  10. #40
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Cleveland,Oh.
    Posts
    1,589
    Thanks Mike!

    Joe.

+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts