1980 Hustler/Sidewinder build

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  1. #31
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    Well...... four more hours of plugging away at the teardown one more axle left to go......yeah.....also having a heck of a time removing the old paint if the upper body....I have used acetone and krud kutter along with a scrub brush and a power washer.....very slow going.....is it safe to use a paint stripper on these bodies .?

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    Some one mentioned earlier you can use paint remover. I was thinking that since paint doesnt hold up on these plastic bodies. I would suggest trying a heat gun. Heat the paint till it starts to bubble and then let it cool. A pressure washer would probably blow it right off.

    RJ


    Quote Originally Posted by turtlecrawler View Post
    Well...... four more hours of plugging away at the teardown one more axle left to go......yeah.....also having a heck of a time removing the old paint if the upper body....I have used acetone and krud kutter along with a scrub brush and a power washer.....very slow going.....is it safe to use a paint stripper on these bodies .?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoood View Post
    I would suggest trying a heat gun. Heat the paint till it starts to bubble and then let it cool.
    .....but be careful. Trying to "bubble up" the paint may very likely result in burning the HDPE. It happens fast, and it might be able to actually burn the plastic *before* the paint bubbles up. HDPE is extremely resilient to chemicals, and it's really the preferred method. The Hustler bodies are textured, so sanding them will destroy the texture in the areas you're addressing. If paint thinner, grafitti-off, acetone (etc.) doesn't do the trick (it still takes a lot of scrubbing, it's a lot of work to rememdy someone's bad judgement), you can try the heat gun. Just be careful!

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    I have noticed that all my outer bearings had the collars on the inside of the tub....Is this normal ? From what I have seen most 950"s have the collars on the outside of the tub during the re-assembly process....Is this for the ease to get to them.......The have been a real pain to get out from the inside next to the frame.....The bearings that I have removed so far are the same as far as having 2 piece flanges (inner and outers)....Do the bearings come with the collars and do the flanges need replaced when doing bearings? Or and if anyone knows the part numbers I need for bearings , collars and flanges that would be great....

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    Quote Originally Posted by turtlecrawler View Post
    I have noticed that all my outer bearings had the collars on the inside of the tub....Is this normal ?
    It seems to be normal on a lot of Hustlers. It is a pain to get them off, but it does keep them a bit cleaner when they're inside the tub. I don't think it would hurt to put them on the outside if you wanted to.

    Quote Originally Posted by turtlecrawler View Post
    Do the bearings come with the collars and do the flanges need replaced when doing bearings? Or and if anyone knows the part numbers I need for bearings , collars and flanges that would be great....
    Yes, the bearings and locking collars are typically sold as one unit. Unless your flanges are really bent, rusted, tweaked, grenaded, or otherwise fragged, it's not necessary to replace them when replacing bearings. A base replacement 1-3/16" I.D., 62mm O.D. carries a Peer or KML part number of HC206-19. Any retailer will be able to cross reference that number with other manufacturers. It may be in your best interest to get a triple sealed variant of the bearing, which carries a suffix of "R3", I believe.....

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    Hydromike....Thanks again for the info.....Everyone seems to agree on the outer bearing part numbers, but there seems to be a difference on the inner bearing #'s......Do you know what I need to do to tell the difference or is there any change on the inner bearing #'s. Fyi ...I found a paint remover that works great it comes in a tub (approx 1lb.) from Lowe's. I will post the name of it when I get home tonight. You have to leave it on for more than 24 hrs. but it seems to work great so far with no effect on the tub itself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by turtlecrawler View Post
    ....., but there seems to be a difference on the inner bearing #'s......Do you know what I need to do to tell the difference or is there any change on the inner bearing #'s.
    Embarrassingly, I don't remember the inner bearing size on my Hustler. (!) When I went through mine last January, I didn't have to replace any of my inners, so I never committed the size to memory (as though that would've helped, anyway....) I agree with you that some are different. I thought mine were 52mm, but Racerone3 has 42mm inners on his 980, if I remember right. I won't postulate on what the size of your bearings might be, but if you can measure it up some time (outer diameter, and inner diameter) we can help you find the part number, or give Buffalo Bearings a call with your bearing size, and they'll get you the right equipment. I don't think the inners have locking collars; they just have two set screws. Mine did, anyway...

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    The following is what I did for my Hustler - these are my notes from others in here.

    You will need HC206-19 Bearings for the outers on the hustler. You can find tons of sources online, or give Buffalo Bearing a call 1800-669-8019. You should probably look into the condition of your inners as well. they are a 52mm OD, 1" ID bearing with a set screw locking inner race (UC205-16), but Greg at B-lo Bearing can get you steered in the right direction)

    Call the good folks at Buffalo Bearings, and when you order your bearings also order new out flanges, they are 2 piece 3 bolt, make sure you get 6 with and 6 w/o grease zergs.. Thoroughly clean the body where the old where mounted and use 3M™ Strip Calk 08578 between the lower tub and the inner flange to get a good seal. You should refer to Mike's video he posted on changing bearings on a maxII on the 6x6world home page or YouTube.

    I added a third locking collar, the clamp style 1-bolt on the inside of the outer bearing. I got the 6 1-bolt clamping style from McMaster-Carr #6435K49 1-3/16".

    You will want to get anti-seiz to put on your axles when inserting them. This will help to seal the axle from water entering where it passes through the outer bearing.

    that should get you going
    RJ /zoood
    Last edited by zoood; 01-16-2012 at 12:36 PM. Reason: additional info

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    Hydromike and Zoood.....Thank you both for the tips.......Tomorrow I am going to go to a local Bearing shop in town and see if they can get me what I need...( I would like to spend the money in my home town...If ya know what I mean....) If not I will sure give the guys at Buffalo Bearing a call..... The plan is to replace ALL the bearings, collars, and flanges throughout the rig. Don't what any troubles down thw road....

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    Well the paint removal procees is going slow but effective...The product is called PEEL AWAY 6...you can get it a Lowes... It comes in a plastic bucket and you paint it on and then wait.....................and then wait some more at least 24 hrs. It seems to have no ill effect on the body tub itself....In the moring I will pressure spray it off and post some pics....One more axle to pull then it is frame removal time ..................

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