AK Bush Tracks alongside Argo Factory Rubber Tracks

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Thread: AK Bush Tracks alongside Argo Factory Rubber Tracks

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    AK Bush Tracks alongside Argo Factory Rubber Tracks

    If this is allowed. Hope everyone had a great weekend! We were in the rain😊

    https://youtu.be/bKNVKIllrLQ

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    great comparo,no contest there buz.

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    Looking good. I am sure that will help those trying to make a decision who may be on the fence.

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    the results speak for themselves. seeing is believing. Will you be shipping these tracks to Canada? a set of these with the winter extensions would be unbeatable year round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 22savage View Post
    the results speak for themselves. seeing is believing. Will you be shipping these tracks to Canada? a set of these with the winter extensions would be unbeatable year round.
    Yes, starting October- After hunting season winds down here locally. We’ll have Swim Paddles, extra belts (rarely necessary with standard extra wide track), and ice cleats. Free set up and install if local. No track tuners required with proper set up. Most tracks will be pre-drilled with a 2nd hinge location and overlapped with a double layer at this location so that any full length track can be split in the proper location. This will allow one half to be utilized as a half track over any set of axles on the machine for extra insurance in the bush. This way you will not be stopped by a broken corner axle/bearing failure, or loss of tire bead ect. The track is otherwise a run-flat design, but this will give it an extra layer of bush reliability. Local input and hard personal use over the years and seeing/repairing other track style failures on Alaska machines have fine tuned what we do, so it’s finally time. I’ll have additional videos comparing other track styles in various conditions, heavy machine loads, and flat tire (loose track) scenarios. We’ll highlight side effects in the bush that customers don’t usually see so that they can make fair comparisons. I once said I would never join facebook, but I did (even I have an open mind). Some initial content has been posted on the Alaska Bush Tracks LLC facebook page. I understand that’s the world we live in. We will have the website live in the near future as we move forward (alaskabushtacks.com). We will be offering other bush-specific fabrication work on these machines and sleds/wagons/tops, etc. As always I enjoy input and questions from anyone and everyone. I’ll try to monitor fairly often. Jeff (ak buzz)
    Last edited by Buzz; 08-12-2021 at 03:49 AM.

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    well .. a moving picture '' tells a thousand words '' . those tracks really perform well . i guess there was'nt much point in filming all the times the other machine had to be pulled out . thanks for taking the time to make the film , really enjoyed it . johnboy va.

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    yes, a couple times I managed to eventually back out, but it took forever and a day (and a ton of rocking/steering/on/off theottle), most of the time even this would not work (and not much weight in machine). Here’s a short video showing the downside to moveable tire guide tips on unlevel terrain. This is an empty machine mind you.

    https://youtu.be/FrN6YbEqYZU

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    Buzz, of course it is allowed, I have been doing comparisons for YEARS!!! You know you hate to hurt feelings but I seen what Rubber tracks with 1 1/2 inch cleats do in the mud (as you can see in my video-they get stuck). I have seen rubber tracks and Argo factory plastic tracks-they suck in the mud! They have there place in snow but as I have said for years they are HARD TO TURN, they are hard on your chains, they are hard on you sprockets, they are hard on your bearings and as seen in your video they can be extremely hard on your tub!!!!!



    So everyone has a right to know before they spend their hard earned bucks on an expensive set of factory tracks!!!!!! Watch the videos yourself!!!





    Alright, so if you are offended I would rather offend you than have your spend your hard earned bucks on something that does not work well!



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    Thanks for that Dan, (I agree), but some folks get upset, especially those that may run that particular style of tracks. You have driven these machines a lot so I know you understand. There’s no way to truly show the limitations of a particular track style without showing how to quickly defeat it. I can show owners of that track style what conditions and situations to AVOID. Problem is, many folks have never run any other style of tracks, and their factory tracks tracks have worked fine for them in THEIR narrow field of conditions, so they don’t understand why the track’s limitations in other conditions in the bush should be pointed out. I will always share my experiences good or bad so that others can avoid the pitfalls I have avoided over the years hunting and doing true long range, loaded, (no trail) bushwacking to get wherever I need to go. Some folks are happy running the same old trail or route out to the cabin over unchallenging flat snow conditions or relatively flat wet grassy conditions with mild mud. These folks (in my opinion) are doing nothing more than using their machines as glorified side-by-sides. Funny part is, over time they’ll all figure it out, and chances are we would probably be pretty goid friends once we understood the other’s perspective. For years, I have had people tell me to post videos of all this stuff, and I have always tried to be the nice guy. But the best way to help people is to compare apples to apples in the worst conditions (the conditions that challenge argos and tracks). Anything else is just pointless and will end up causing many people to suffer varying levels of disappointment over their dealer recommended set ups (especially if they’re all facebook buddies). If those folks are happy running around on flat terrain that is mildly challenging, then I am happy for them. I am not trying to piss in their punch bowl, I am trying to help DIFFERENT folks altogether figure out the short route to what works in the bush if you’re loaded heavy, want to go through any conditions, and do not want to be stopped by challenging terrain or leaky tires. So, the gloves are off. I know I’ll make more friends in tge adventure than enemies, but I have a feeling even they will come around. After all, some of my good friends today used to butt heads with me, so we’re a lot alike. I’ll say this, I’ve always enjoyed the back and forth on this site. In the end everyone benefits!

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    buzz and dan , you have summed it up well . who ever buys one of the machines will have different uses for it. some just putting around on easy trails etc. some on flat terrain snow , and so on. for those looking to get thru the most challenging terrain and conditions ... maybe carrying lots of gear or pulling a trailer etc. folks like yourself have experimented extensively will all kind of setups and have much knowledge to share . you can't beat that . so hopefully before spending money on tracks , folks will research this site and then can make the best choices for their needs . i love it. johnboy va.

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