Argo Bearing and Seal Replacement Video

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  1. #11
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    With my limited experience it looks to me like Rockdoctor is right on the money.

    I have an axle question as well and this seems the appropriate spot to ask.

    Is there supposed to be a gasket between the plastic hull and the metal frame ? Or do the gaskets go on the inside of the frame ? (I know there's one on the outside of the plastic hull)

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    there's no gasket except outside the plastic, but it does bring up the subject of sealing the bolt heads in the outer flange. I use silicone.
    To Invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. (Thomas Edison)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger S View Post
    there's no gasket except outside the plastic, but it does bring up the subject of sealing the bolt heads in the outer flange. I use silicone.
    Seems like a poor design doesn't it ? I would think a gasket between the plastic and steel as well as the outside and inside the frame would be the best.

    Would putting an additional gasket between the plastic and steel frame or at least some silicone cause any problems ?

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    Roger could very well be on to something with the bit of silicone around the bolt heads, I will try it too.

    As for the design. First a gasket to seal between the plastic and the inner brng retainer, then the inner retainer, then a gasket, then the outer retainer. The bolts go through holes in both gaskets, and when tightened up the gaskets squeeze down and seal around the bolts. I think that part works well...........better than the lip seals around the shaft anyway.
    Just a note about useing silicone: One time when I was trying to use an old gasket, I siliconed both sides of it, and tightened it in. The silicone acted as a lubricant, and allowed the old cork gasket to extrude out and completely loose it's seal. It would have been fine if I let the silicone set up a bit first I was in a hurry

    My 2 cents

    RD

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    There should be a lock collar on the inside of the channel for the inner bearing and on the inner side of the outer bearing. The up side of this setup is that the axles can be all moved in a little bit to have a new seal surface. The sprockets are keyed to the axle and are located with spare lock collars.Thats how they are on my Vanguard.

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    Apparently I didn't take enough pictures when I took it apart and the parts manual isn't clear. My question is this:




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    Quick Answer :- NO there is nothing in between that gap. All on the outside.

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    Thanks Aussie Iron.

    I think I got it figured out. Is this right ?

    This is the front axle:


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    You see how the chain tensioners get torqued out of shape because the spring only pulls one one side? You can swap the forks top for bottom, rotate the pads a half turn. Then it'll be pulling them back into shape.
    To Invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. (Thomas Edison)

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    You nearly have it right. There is also a lock collar on the inner bearing, inside - so one to hold the sprocket in place and one to retain the axle to bearing. Only need the extra lock collar to hold the sprockets in place on the front and rear axles. The other axle(s) the sprockets only fit in the gap between the bearings.

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