Throwing a question out there for you guys. Since my tires are a bit oversized, the gap between my grousers wear I put in the Flexco 550 hinge in is approx 2 1/2" bigger/wider than what the normal spacing is. I am wondering if I should bolt another grouser onto one side of the Flexco hinge bolts, which happen to have the same bolt hole spacing as the grouser. The track seems to run smoothly when I ran it off the ground, but you can feel that gap a little as it wraps around the end tires.
I noticed that a gent on here with escargo tracks has a grouser bolted to each hinge side on his tracks, so I am thinking this would work and close that big gap. I think he is also using the Flexco 550s. I just don't know if the grouser bolted to the hinge would cause unwanted stress to it (hinge). Any thoughts?
Hi, thanks for the info,
After reading and re-reading a bunch of this thread, I suddenly had a brain fart....epiphany if you would...
So with that epiphany, I do need some more information if you would please.
What are the two belt widths? Inner and outer?
I've got some old snowmobile tracks with some paddles on them 1 1/2" hi IIRC and I'm thinking if one cut a strip of sled track for the OUTER belt and used plain belting on the inner belt, one could have some paddles to assist in water and mud...just a brain fart is all.
I'll get some pics of the materials I have and then we could discuss this a bit further.
I was going to run the tracks full width but that would require extensive trimming down of many of the lugs for tub clearance and subsequent loss of paddle for snow.
Just thinking outloud here folks....always trying to come up with new ideas for us we all are right?
E D I T
Just contacted local steel sales and...
1 1/2" x 1/2" leg channel
20' length $28.45
75 buck min
Now I'd also like to know how wide the grousers are currently on yer setup.
Also about how many grousers would it take for a SIX wheel unit if you could count it would be really appreciated...
I just counted on a picture and get about 36 grousers to wrap around six wheels, so with that being said and the fact I've got a significantly great axle spacing than Argo I'd say 40-48 per side for my ride, as an estimate for now.
Then I can roughly estimate the required amount of channel required and then work on building a press mould for my shop press and make some grousers ...
Thanks..for any and all help
Al
Last edited by riotwarrior; 10-20-2014 at 11:38 AM.
MUSCATEER 6x6
Kubota 14hp 2cyl diesel engine, Hagen/Rooter transmission Comet 780 Drive/770 Driven 22x12x8 Bearclaw tyres
Soon to add on a ... RHB31 Turbo..guess that would make it a
MUSCA TUR BOTA then eh?
94 F350 4x4 7.3 IDI ZF 5sp
90 Bronco..awaiting a rebuild like no other = Tons and turbo diesel
Okanagan Similkameen BC Canada
Al "Camo pants"
I have been told that for a 2009 6x6 frontier with 24x10x8 tires i would need 40 grousers per track..
for a 1988 argo 6x6 which is shorter than the 2009 it would need 36 grousers per side...
As for the belt width it depends if you have spacers installed or not,,,with 2.5 inch spacers you can have 4 inch wide belts inside and outside which would give you 18 inch tracks with 24x10 tires..
this is what i have been quoted for ...(2009 frontier) $2000. installed
Ok so with this picture here you can see that my wheel spacing is considerably greater than most ARGO's my wheel base is +- an inch or two 56" these are 22x12x8 bear claws...I need some 20" tyres for tracks.
So what is a 09 wheel base? I'm guessing not as large as mine, but who knows, this is why I'm thinking 48 grousers per track.
E D I T OH Ya I still need a grouser width you have and how wide your betls/tyres are so I can calculate out this darn materials list TY
Here these are the two different sets of tracks I have, which there are two of each type.
Angled outer cleats
Straight outer cleats
I can cut off the outer edge and make a couple of different tracks and you can see there is significant differences between the two types and sizes too.
Straight about 6" wide total but could be cut narrower if needed
Angled cleats about 8" total but again could be cut down some...
So ripping the outer edges off the tracks could make an interesting combination of belted bar track don't you think?
I suppose one could find other track types too and see what they could come up with. Or a combination of angular cleats on outside and straight cleats on inside? I dunno...just throwing ideas around here is all...
Whatcha all think?
Last edited by riotwarrior; 10-20-2014 at 02:50 PM.
MUSCATEER 6x6
Kubota 14hp 2cyl diesel engine, Hagen/Rooter transmission Comet 780 Drive/770 Driven 22x12x8 Bearclaw tyres
Soon to add on a ... RHB31 Turbo..guess that would make it a
MUSCA TUR BOTA then eh?
94 F350 4x4 7.3 IDI ZF 5sp
90 Bronco..awaiting a rebuild like no other = Tons and turbo diesel
Okanagan Similkameen BC Canada
Al "Camo pants"
calculated out about 42-45 grousers per side at approximately 18" so figure 50 per side = 50x18"= 75 feet so 5 bars each side for wiggle room. so bout 150 a side for channel iron.
Add in bolts...and a guy can have a wicked cool set of tracks. NOT counting time that's not bad at all..I've got drill presses and tools to make the channel easy enough.
That leaves a couple pieces of plate 1 1/2 - 1 5/8" thick then some plate the same width as inside measurement of the channel and make two press plates. That makes a nice setup to make the actual jigs to bend the material in a press....what kind of press I'm thinking something like a wood splitter would be sufficient to be quick and powerful.
Could be fabbing some tracks in spring...hard to say.
Anyway just thinking out loud, first and foremost I need six 20 or 21" tyres to replace the ones I have for track clearances.
Whatcha all think?
MUSCATEER 6x6
Kubota 14hp 2cyl diesel engine, Hagen/Rooter transmission Comet 780 Drive/770 Driven 22x12x8 Bearclaw tyres
Soon to add on a ... RHB31 Turbo..guess that would make it a
MUSCA TUR BOTA then eh?
94 F350 4x4 7.3 IDI ZF 5sp
90 Bronco..awaiting a rebuild like no other = Tons and turbo diesel
Okanagan Similkameen BC Canada
Al "Camo pants"
Can somebody tell me how thick is the belt that marcel uses..Thanks
My Chanel track uses a 1/2inch belt
2014-11-29 13.53.05.jpg2014-11-29 13.46.52.jpgWell last weekend I took my Conquest out for the first time with the Chanel tracks (20") with track tuners on the center hubs. The snow depth ranged from 1-3 feet depending on elevation. The machine was overloaded with 4 adults, 1 dog, and approx 200 lbs worth of gear inside and I was pulling 3 kids in a Otter sled. It managed to climb up the mountain and we got our X-mas trees, but it was slow going. The channels seemed to do very good, but I did have some tire slippage in the rears. That went away once I put more air in the front and back tires and I need to experiment with the psi a bit. I think the machine might be geared a bit too low now with the gear reduction tracks and I might pull my clutch and back the spring position off a bit.
I first want to take it out again with a "normal" load and try it out first, but I could tell I lost quite a bit of top end in high running on the flat, but like I mentioned I was loaded down and pulling a trailer.
The machine does steer easier for sure. I have some aluminum angle (2"hx3"w) that I am going to put on the inside and outside belts between every other grouser for paddles when I get some free time.