What is better track or dual wheel

[gimmegreens336]

was hoping RD outfitted some tracked duals just for our viewing pleasure by the end of this thread, let's keep this going

[Rock Doctor]

What is a cas RD

Plott, I have not noticed much actionfrom #1cas in a while. Maybe he went for a ride, and the mosquitos got him?

Just a bit of a Brain Fart on my part, was thinking about someone else.

RD

[North Country Tough]

What is a cas RD

Plott, I have not noticed much actionfrom #1cas in a while. Maybe he went for a ride, and the mosquitos got him?

[North Country Tough]

we need northcountrytough to chime in on this.he has been running a dual setup for years.

Hey guys been a little busy with the new foal (small horse) on its way,sheesh lots of opinions on this subject,I run doubles in the summer months tracks for winter,the duals for MY purpose are the best overall set up for what I do,will they go places that tracks do hell no,do they go places where a single tire machines get stuck hell yes,understand this I load my machine for water crossing which I do lots,and it resembles what the Rock Doc,s loads look like on land only more,the machine can easily carry its own weight in water.On land I do not have to deal with huge bogs,what I do deal with are deep ruts cut by four wheelers and some very soft conditions,the twins span the ruts,and leave very little damage to the trail behind and actually roll out the soft ruts like a lawnroller,for me they work extremely well,tracks for me are for winter only and I have upgraded to rubber from plastic and are very happy.Depends entirely on your needs what works best,if you outfit your ride properly for the purpose you intend to use it you will be happy,no sense trying to argue which setup is better,no one setup covers every possible scenario.NCT

[Rock Doctor]

I went for a pretty long trail ride yesterday, paying particular attention to just how tight the "standard" trails are with 18" tracks. While there are places where I would like to try the dual setup, I was a little surprised at just how much chainsaw work would have to be done to widen the trail just that little bit to accommodate duals. I'm rethinking right now, and I may just order another set of tracks.

Plott, I have not noticed much actionfrom #1cas in a while. Maybe he went for a ride, and the mosquitos got him?

RD

[plott hound]

we need northcountrytough to chime in on this.he has been running a dual setup for years.

[BenDawg]

Lol im suprised theres even a question... Tracks are better 99.9999999999999% of the time... Unless you are half duck ..tracks are better...

[foxvalley]

I have supertracks and modified them by adding hardened ice screws used by atv racers. It would be interesting to see if the adair tracks modified in a similar manner might perform well in your condition. Those cleats are sharp and hard and will rip up a concrete driveway.

Not trying to change your mind smog but rather give those adair track owners some more experiments to run for those of us that are future adair track owners.

I am looking very forward to doing just that with my 18" tracks. Not only on the top of the grousers, but also on the sides. The only drawback with these tracks that I have found so far is they are very slippery on ice. But with the addition of ice studs they will eliminate that problem,and I really think that I will be able to crawl up on the ice from open water. We will see.

[Rock Doctor]

Duals with tracks.....

I wonder what it would take to do this? I bet that if you spoke to Tim at Adir Argo, you could come up with a track design that would allow one track to ride over dual tires. Maybe W shaped grousers with 3 tire guides. Inside, Outside, and Center guides that run between the tires. I'm thinking that would be a hard track to drive out of. Yes it would be heavy, but relative to something like the rubber tracks on the Modd Ox, it would not be bad. The Mudd Ox tracks I was looking at are about 240lbs each. Adding one set of tires and some UHMW Tracks to a machine like an Argo Might still be adding less weight than one similar set of Ox Rubber Tracks.


RD

[Stonewall]

Duals with tracks.....

[smog]

I have the Argo rubber tracks and so does my friend, at 1800 miles (1 year, 200 hrs) of use I have replaced the hinge kit, no other issues.

can't tell for the US argo owners but here in Canada, Some Argos are on rubber tracks for at least 15 years as RSBolduc made the 20" even before Argo started to offer the 18" rubber tracks. Most of them have far more hours on them than any Adair track system born in 2010. And even used, the resale value of the rubber tracks is just sky high at around 2000$ if you can find one, while you can get a lightly used 18" plastic supertracks set for 400$-600$

(again, I'm not bashing the Adair setup; it's the only one that can swim)

[number1cas]

I have the Argo rubber tracks and so does my friend, at 1800 miles (1 year, 200 hrs) of use I have replaced the hinge kit, no other issues. They are FAR superior to wheels or double wheels or any other set up. Tracks win hands down no argument. Have not had or seen the Adair ones but they look like they would be good too. We went into moose camp last weekend, me on tracks friend on wheels and I had to pull him through a bunch of holes that we just glide over with the tracks on. He tore up the trail like a quad would do, what a mess!!

[JohnF]

... but for rocks with ice on them a rubber track will gripe a whole lot better.

Oh, trust me, I understand that all things engineering are a compromise. Since I can only afford 1 set of track, and if mine were Adair tracks, I think this is the approach I would take to extend into the weak area of the adair design. And you might be suprised at the sticking power this cleats add. I can easily climb an iced over metal ramp that was impossible without the cleats. I also need to cover that ramp because the cleats are tearing it up.

I have the supertracks because I constructed a deal where I ended up with basically brand new supertracks, extensions and all, for less than 20% of online retail price. If I had to pay retail for tracks today I wouldn't have any. In Smog's position I would definately not ignore tried and true.

[ArgoDude2350]

Tracks are generally better for ice and snow. Dual wheels are better for mud, dirt, ect.

[smog]

Not trying to change your mind smog but rather give those adair track owners some more experiments to run for those of us that are future adair track owners.

there's no "one track fit all"

what I know is that ANY plastic track will not do good in the WINTER conditions we have here in eastern Canada. it will work but always end up being towed by an Argo on 20" rubber tracks.

But ONLY the adair will work in the water and be vastly superior in muddy conditions.