I just used screws to hold it down onto the deck.. So far it has not moved at all. And it also prevents the argo from wanting to slide around on the rough logging road. It sure saves the deck. It did not take long for the channel track to chew up the wooden ramps. But thats ok just gives the ramps more traction
I put old snowmobile Track on my ramps to protect and add traction. Same as you, I just punch a few screws through the track/ramps to hold them together
I just used screws to hold it down onto the deck.. So far it has not moved at all. And it also prevents the argo from wanting to slide around on the rough logging road. It sure saves the deck. It did not take long for the channel track to chew up the wooden ramps. But thats ok just gives the ramps more traction
I put two old conveyor belt strip down no my trailer deck to protect it from the crossers on the channel track. Otherwise they would just tear it to bits. Its working out fine so fare.
Love the video you have posted. Nice job you'd done
I was thinking of a sacrificial sheet of plywood to protect the trailer from the steel cleats but conveyor belting sounds like a much better idea. What and how are you attaching it to the deck?
My neighbor should be here for the run,he has a bigfoot that we installed the 18" chain tracks on,and I was very impressed on how his unit now preforms,it will be great to match him up to Kieths setup he has now.
Very good I look forward to more vids, and yes adair does offer a variety of track setups including elevated belt with metal addons, basically an escargo design.
Thanks for the vids! although the areas you ride in don't seem very extreme maybe that's why it may not warrant you having traction aids, in the summer at least.
An elevated belt design would gear your machine down giving you a lot more power when needed.
thanks for the vids keith. What? Thanks..for...the..vids...keith. Man that thing is loud. Sounds great though.
You're right, notched or pointed ice cleats or even bolt heads can damage cement floors. Something to think about anyway.
Thanks again
6x6's are more likely to tip over on end during steep climbs. 8x8's still require just as much power on very steep climbs or over obstacles. It just takes more of an obstacle to require it. Lesser obstacles are challenging for 6x6's. The stablily of a longer wheelbase is a very important thing.
Yes, the 8x8s do seem to give more stability. I think they are a much better people or cargo hauler. Obstacles that are extreme for a 6x6 can most times be easily climbed with an 8x8. Tight areas and places the light weight "floats" better in mud and sand seems to be the 6x6s advantage. Probably why they are more popular with the recreational crowd.
This time around when getting a set of tracks for the Max IV I felt much more educated. Having tried 4 types of tracks previously and learning from the various track threads on the forum I had very lengthy discussions with Tim from Adair and other members. I actually was thinking about an elevated design this time around. The gear reduction and the designs inherent desire to stay on are very appealing and Adair makes several versions with different style grousers and traction aids. For me, the Pro Series allowed my tracks to sit closer to the tub than the elevated design. I went from a 4" spacer with the mud and snow tracks to a 2 1/2" spacer for the Pro Series tracks. Also, the flat track design gives me floatation 2-3" higher than the elevated belt would. The Pro Series also allowed the bonus of being able to go to an add on Snow and Ice kit. What I have with the Pro Series is a narrow compact track that I can pretty easily add an extra belt to with aggressive traction aids that are outside my body giving me more traction and flotation depending on terrain and/or season. This, the customer service and my proximity to Adair Argo drove my decision to try this setup (it also gave me an excuse to upgrade my engine). If I end up having problems with the tracks staying on...well then that will just help determine the style of the next set of tracks I get. I am looking forward to being a part of the Swamp Run at Doug's in a few weeks. Should be a great chance to compare a number of styles of tracks in the Tamarack swamp.
Should be a lot of fun for everyone. Hard to know for sure but based on what I've seen in all your videos, I'm guessing that Keith's lightweight, rear engine, big motor, big footprint machine will probably have the advantage on this ride and most likely be the machine to beat :-/
I'm just going to send Kieth into the hornets nest first,and after he gets stuck, we will all know where NOT to go.....LOL.
Hey Doug...I figured you'd know just what direction to point Keith in so we could all have a little fun watching him...LOL ...after having the opportunity to go riding with him on several occasions I can guarantee you he is afraid of nothing, and will usually go out of his way to make things interesting :-)
Those look like nice tracks. I'm surprised the 25 horse didn't cut it especially with it geared down. Although we are men and we are always in need of more power.
The max looks awesome with those tracks. Sounds great too with that power plant.
Makes me want to get home and do the Spring Service on my machines, so I can get out and play too.
I've been at work for a couple weeks now, and only 8 more days to go before I can get home, lol
RD
Hey Doc,
Sounds like you are working way to much,you should pack up the family and head to WI next month. I have a nice little log cabin for you to stay in.
[QUOTE=Obsessed;167858]Should be a lot of fun for everyone. Hard to know for sure but based on what I've seen in all your videos, I'm guessing that Keith's lightweight, rear engine, big motor, big footprint machine will probably have the advantage on this ride and most likely be the machine to beat :-/
I'm just going to send Kieth into the hornets nest first,and after he gets stuck, we will all know where NOT to go.....LOL.
The max looks awesome with those tracks. Sounds great too with that power plant.
Makes me want to get home and do the Spring Service on my machines, so I can get out and play too.
I've been at work for a couple weeks now, and only 8 more days to go before I can get home, lol
Chris at beaver dam has been invited to the swamp run,and if he does come out, i'm sure he will bring an escargo tracked unit,which will be a great addition to all the other tracked units out here.
By having different type tracked units out here at the swamp run at the same time,it will be a great opportunity to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of each track type,in a semi controlled enviroment,under the same situations,and will any luck, on the same model unit. By doing this, and having some of the "heavyweights of the amphib world" out here, evaluating the preformance,new ideas may be hatched,making a better track desighn for all of us.
Should be a lot of fun for everyone. Hard to know for sure but based on what I've seen in all your videos, I'm guessing that Keith's lightweight, rear engine, big motor, big footprint machine will probably have the advantage on this ride and most likely be the machine to beat :-/
I heard they were supposed to be getting 8-10" of snow up north of you a little ways...I was heading up that way today but just decided to reschedule around the winter storm weather. Probably give it a day or two to clear up a bit.
Hey Keith great videos...was that one of Mudd-Ox's new tall tub machine with big tires? Looked like it was super fast in the water...I had a chance this afternoon to play on a new 6x6 HD with the 26x16x12 tires and it flat out flies on the water. Mike will probably try to post a video to YouTube sometime when we get a chance. BTW. I agree with Rock...your machine makes that all look pretty easy. I think you would of had some trouble on the steep sandy bank of that pond with a narrow 14.5" track...I'm guessing from experience it might of augured into the sand and taken a couple of tries to get up it like the big machine did...I'm guessing the other stuff would have been pretty easy for your narrow setup. Looking forward to doing more comparison testing at Fox Valley Argo's swamp ride and am looking forward to watching your machine follow Doug's big HDI around in his back yard! Thanks for sharing your fun with all of us!
tim
Chris at beaver dam has been invited to the swamp run,and if he does come out, i'm sure he will bring an escargo tracked unit,which will be a great addition to all the other tracked units out here.
By having different type tracked units out here at the swamp run at the same time,it will be a great opportunity to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of each track type,in a semi controlled enviroment,under the same situations,and will any luck, on the same model unit. By doing this, and having some of the "heavyweights of the amphib world" out here, evaluating the preformance,new ideas may be hatched,making a better track desighn for all of us.
Keith, your machine looks really nice and sounds just beautiful, I want to thank you for taking the time to film your machine in some nasty areas and then posting the videos up.
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