rawhides or chevrons

[teeko]

Ok guys, I went against your advice and bought rims and tires from RC. Let me start by saying they were very courteous and professional, answering all my questions promptly. Here's why I went with them. I live in Canada. Tires from Argo are $200 each and that is with buddy discount. Tax us 13% plus an ecotax of 5$ a tire I think. That doesn't even include rims, which I need. To buy rims and tires separately, I would pay shipping twice and still have to get them mounted. All the money saved would add up pretty quickly in other costs. I had them sent to Niagara falls NY and my dad will bring them across on his way back from Florida this weekend. Able to declare 750$, I pay tax on the 30$ difference. Really not that bad, all things considered. But in case any of you were wondering, hour meters are still on sale

[Dirty Harry]

Thanks for the heads-up! Do you have these mounted yet, and if so how do you like them so far? I know I'm gonna hafta wait awhile as I have the GF moving in and need to put priority on some household upgrades (new kitchen flooring, primer & paint throughout rest of house, etc., etc. however, when income tax refund shows up next spring... Bingo!! (Sorry for hijacking this thread!)

[marshgunner]

I tried to get a get of wheels from Matt O but was unsuccessful in doing so. So I called Adair Argo in Iowa and TIM sold me a set mounted on aqua-torques for a good price.

[Dirty Harry]

Does Recreatives still sell 9" k-locks or is Matt O the fellow to see for them? (I am still contemplating areplacing my 26" on 12's with 9 inchers and a set of those Aqua-Torqs.) Just wonderin' ...

[jpswift1]

They're the same as the ones Richard sells, except much less expensive. If you do some hard trail riding at low PSI, the bead could come off, yes. If you're want the bead lock/K lock style you're going to have to spend more money on some Max wheels which you can from directly from Recreatives. Amphibious Six-Wheel Drive All-Terrain Vehicles: MaxATVs - Call 1-800-255-2511

[MaxRules]

Has anyone checked the bead on those rims? Being trailer tires, I'd be concerned with popping a tire off the bead the instant you ride a rutted out trail. You need a good bead lock when tires are at 2psi.

[jpswift1]

I posted a link earlier in this thread for brand new rims for about $10 each. Here it is: 8X7 5 Bolt Silver Bell Trailer Wheel | RecStuff.com

[teeko]

Thanks for the feedback. I need rims too. My machine has fatcats on it now.

[stan2003]

Just had a set of the Carlisle AT101's on my Argo yesterday. Buying thru a local dealer tires and installation was less than $500. He had pumped them up to 20 lbs and yae there were rough, but when I dropped them to 5 lbs they ride pretty good. I do know my Argo will spin on a dime now. Contact me if you need more info.

[jpswift1]

What I think about someone has nothing to do with what I posted, just like Drew said. I post information to help someone out so that they can get into this hobby without being nickle and dimed until they're broke and then give up on the hobby. Second, these companies that I posted the links to are reputable companies that other members dealt with and I highly doubt they "don't give a damn" about the sales we generate. Also, the parts I posted are the SAME parts that Richard sells, just at an extremely lower price, so fitment is not an issue. And the extra research is done by helpful 6x6World members to help others find a low price.....just like what I did by helping somebody here to save a huge amount on just a set of wheels and tires. If anyone else needs any help locating anything all they need to do is ask and we, as the tight knit, non-commercial community that we are, come to help so that they can get their AATV back on the trail with quality parts at a good price and keep the hobby growing.

[Groundhog]

Ya know,
Everyone here has good intentions. I have used the info from this site to restore machines at a reasonable cost. The really noteworthy ones have been Motion industries, Buffalo Bearings, and Apache gear.
The used parts picked up from fellow members thru purchase or trade is simply awesome, and great fun! I have also used RR for really hard to get items and some informative tips, at a steep price. I understand the challenge of a small operation.
RI has been top notch at a medium to steep price, but a serviving US company deserves all respect.
In summary, buy from whoever you like!
It is cool the folks here will share info on the bargains they find to save the average wheeler some $.

[amphibious drew]

Jpswifts feelings about Richard is irrelevant. the fact is swift is dedicated to helping others in the sport in a selfless way. the advise he gives is always correct and intended to help others just getting involved in this sport. it is not advantageous for someone to purchase a $7000 machine from Richard and have it catch fire right afterwards. especially when the machine is worth maybe $2500. I am not against paying for service or supporting the little guy. I am against overcharging customers and selling inferior products which is what I believe Richard does.

[MaxRules]

There are a few things to consider here:
1. The convenience of buying the tires and wheels assembled and ready to go;
2. The different tires have very different prices;
3. JPSwift hates Richard;
4. Supporting those who are really involved in promoting and maintaining what is left of the 6x6 industry is very important. When you buy from Recreatives, Richard, or a Max/Argo dealer, you are supporting a vital part of the real 6x6 world. These 6x6 companies will provide you with the parts that fit your vehicle without any extra research and run-around you'll get by finding parts from multiple companies that don't give a damn about the super low volume of sales created by 6x6 sales.

[jpswift1]

And here are some 21x11x8 Carlisles for around $64 each. You're looking at around $75 for each tire and wheel by going this route. A LOT cheaper than $130 per tire and wheel, especially when you consider that you need 6.

http://stopandgotires.com/modelsize.asp?ProductCode=599044

[jpswift1]

Thanks for the info, guys. My machine is a 1970 argo with 7/8" axles. I heard that the rawhides were a little stiffer in the sidewall so I was leaning towards the chevrons for improved ride. I need 22's. RR quoted me $780 for all six chevrons mounted on rims. Is this a good price?

That's not a good price, that's pretty high actually. The 22" Carlisle Chevrons are also going to ride hard because of the hard rubber tread compound that Carlisle uses. The earlier Carlisle Chevrons used a softer rubber compound, but the newer ones all give a somewhat hard ride. If I were you I'd look for another source for tires and then get some inexpensive rims and just have them mounted at a local tire shop. You'd save lots of money.

Take a look at this thread:

http://www.6x6world.com/forums/tire-track-wheel-talk/16464-www-richardsrelics-com-tires-terra-tiger-crazy-high.html

Here's part of my post from that thread:

Many, many people in the hobby have been turned off to it, or given up on their projects because of the unreasonably high prices that he tries to soak them with when they're buying parts. He's just there to make LOTS of money. 6X6World is here to help promote the hobby in a non commercial way, and there are many generous members that sell parts here cheap, and offer low cost, higher quality, and do it yourself alternatives to Richard Clark's sky high priced items.

Here's what I'd suggest if you want to do this for a low price. First off, do some research here on 6x6World.

For the rims and tires, check around on the classified section of the site.

If you want brand new rims, you could get these ones here, very cheap......around $10 each!

http://recstuff.com/8X7-5-4.5-Silver-Bell-Trailer-Wheel.aspx

Once you have the rims, then just decide what tire you want and go from there. 21-22" tires will work on a Terra Tiger. Let us know if there's anything else we can do to help you. This is the best place for AATVs on the Internet, with tons of useful information and lots of helpful members. Good luck with it!