Originally Posted by Roadtorque
1999 max 2 18 b&s 22 tires custom . new max iv 23 k 26 i/n tires brown . ht cable promark winch . new toy 1972 attex st400 400ccjlo and she will be bad . ( the frog )if it don't float with out you getting wet . don't bring it !
R.I.P sage rogers 4 11 09 .
Hey guys, just curious.... Is counter rotation something big on the list of must haves for an amphib? Just trying to think of any situations where it might be needed. It really looks cool, but is it needed for anything more than maybe a quick getaway.Just wondering.
Bridget
I can maneuver my Argo 8x8 just about through anything, but if it could counter rotate, maneuvering through tight places would be easier. When Argo 8x8s turn, the back ends really swing around. I think counter rotating would lessen the back end swing. I would imagine it would help in the mud too. A lot of times, once your in the mud, you can't really steer to pick the best line, I think that if you could counter rotate a few degrees, you might be able to hit a better line and have a better chance of getting out. PLUS THE 360s ARE REALLY COOL!!!!Hey guys, just curious.... Is counter rotation something big on the list of must haves for an amphib? Just trying to think of any situations where it might be needed. It really looks cool, but is it needed for anything more than maybe a quick getaway.
Bridget
When you're in a rutted mudhole with the belly high centered, it can help to get the aatv turned at an angle across the center high spot. Otherwise it can be winch time. Wheels going opposite directions does better than one side braked.
You guys are so smart.. SMRT.Now I see a useful application for it. The most mud I've seen in YEARS was on the Ashtabula racetrack.
Oh, wait... & Ledges 2008 when I hi-centered the Spider. But with the Spider I don't think counter rotation would have worked. It was a bad rut & when your wheels are spinning in what seems like a bottomless pit of goop, I was glad to see the winch come out.
Thanks guys!
Bridget
Yes Bridgett, there's safety in numbers. Maybe not safer, but we feel more brave and get more stupid, knowing there's a 1/2 dozen winches and a couple fire extinguishers nearby
Did Odg Do Any Testing On These Rigs To See How The Tires Held Up In Sharp Rocks And Stumps.are The Tires On The Conquest 4 Ply.
I have ran these tires for awhile and they are excellent tires. They are 4-ply and they are tough. Much tougher than the rawhides on the sidewalls. Not slamming the rawhides. This is from my observations of running both. The Argo tires are great swimmers and are great in the mud. I think with the counter rotating transmission and the Argo tires it will be lethal combination.
Some seem to be concerned that the tires don't counter rotate very fast, i do not see this as a problem. No one owns one yet to even give it a fair appraisal. This combination was tested quite extensively over the last year.
Back to the rock and stumps: I have a 2006 Avenger with standard steering and i have ran over all the items and not had a issue. The Argo rims are not as good as Matt O's double bead rims. I seem to knock one off each ride, but i am a little aggressive in the mud. I have them mounted on the new rims and i think this is now a non issue.
I know this is a little lengthy but this is my experience with the tires. I would be very upset if i had to go back to my Rawhides. These are testing tires and so far the tests are great.
This is my opinion others may vary.
( QUOTE ) " I have them mounted on the new rims and i think this is now a non issue. "
Lewis,,
Are these the new Argo rims that you are referring to? If so, are the new Argo rims now double bead lock?
They are a bead lock but not as good as Matt's. When you put a tire on Matt's they stay! The rims that i had them one were just plain Argo rims. I seem to always knock at least one off a ride.
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