Think it will swim ?

[boncrshr]

The whole swimming tire thing is kind of a fascinating mystery to me...2 cases in point.
1) Kenda Bearclaws did not swim a stroke for me, but will swim a little on MattO's MudOx
2) MightyMaxIV had all Vampires at one time, and while they swam, he had a hard time turning/controlling them, however; they swim/turn well on the Hustler. The only difference we can think of is that the Hustler has more distance between the front and center axle, than center and rear.

So I think in addition to tread patterns, vehicle type must also be considered. A tire that swims on a 8x8, may not swim on a Max II for instance......it's all one big experiment.

[Cougar]

I'd like to go with the Frontiers, but 8 of them wow.$$$$ Does any one know when you should be able to buy them from a Goodyear dealer?? Cougar

[mudbug3]

mightymaxIV and I have talked a lot about tires ( facing forwards and facing backwards ) and also the space each tire has between the one next to it .

My theory is this :

The space a tire has in relation to the tire next to it , will also effect the water speed . Boncrshr,s Huster 950 has 25 inch Vampires that are all facing fowards , and it swims fairly well . He can also control his machine in the water . MightymaxIV had Vampire tires in the middle and front of his Max IV , and Swamp fox Plus tires in the rear , and he told me the Vampires made his Max IV very hard to control in the water . MightymaxIV also runs larger sized tires than what came from the factory . This makes his tires run very close together .

Boncrshr,s tires are spaced apart about the same as my Max IV . About five inches between the middle and rear ,and about three and half inches between the middle and front . MightymaxIV runs 27 inch tires , and this gives him about 3/4 of an inch clearance beween each wheel .

When a tire is really close to the one next to it ,, this will cause turbulance in the water , as the front tire rotates forward , the tire behind it
has a harder time pushing the water downward . This is because of the water turbulance created by the tire in front of it . This cycle keeps repeating itself all the way to the last tire .

I think this is one of the reasons the new Argo,s swim so well , because of large space between . This creates less turbulance in the water for the tires to fight against by the tires in front of them . I also know that the Frontier tires swim well too !

[mightymaxIV]

Originally Posted by mudbug3

mightymaxIV and I have talked a lot about tires ( facing forwards and facing backwards ) and also the space each tire has between the one next to it .

My theory is this :

The space a tire has in relation to the tire next to it , will also effect the water speed . Boncrshr,s Huster 950 has 25 inch Vampires that are all facing fowards , and it swims fairly well . He can also control his machine in the water . MightymaxIV had Vampire tires in the middle and front of his Max IV , and Swamp fox Plus tires in the rear , and he told me the Vampires made his Max IV very hard to control in the water . MightymaxIV also runs larger sized tires than what came from the factory . This makes his tires run very close together .

Boncrshr,s tires are spaced apart about the same as my Max IV . About five inches between the middle and rear ,and about three and half inches between the middle and front . MightymaxIV runs 27 inch tires , and this gives him about 3/4 of an inch clearance beween each wheel .

When a tire is really close to the one next to it ,, this will cause turbulance in the water , as the front tire rotates forward , the tire behind it
has a harder time pushing the water downward . This is because of the water turbulance created by the tire in front of it . This cycle keeps repeating itself all the way to the last tire .

I think this is one of the reasons the new Argo,s swim so well , because of large space between . This creates less turbulance in the water for the tires to fight against by the tires in front of them . I also know that the Frontier tires swim well too !

I like the frontier tires also but they would kill my ground clearance!

[Roger S]

Rock Doctor has frontier tires on his Conquest.. they almost touch each other. He said it would swim upstream and leave a wake. I've heard that 22" rawhide III's on an argo 8 make a poor swimmer. It's all a crap shoot from my perspective.

[mudbug3]

Originally Posted by Roger S

Rock Doctor has frontier tires on his Conquest.. they almost touch each other. He said it would swim upstream and leave a wake. I've heard that 22" rawhide III's on an argo 8 make a poor swimmer. It's all a crap shoot from my perspective.

Well , I guess that kills my theory about tires .

[boncrshr]

The mad scientist in me wants to see Meinfeld's Hustler with some paddle tires like the mud boggers run...with the kind of horsepower he has I think they would work for him both in the mud and water.