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Another thing about those heaters is if they are anything like the borg Warner? that I had in my vw, it takes up a ton of space. I think if I'm going to risk carbon monoxide I would rather just use engine heat and a portable cheap detector like an airplane has.
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:Mooselegs minus 40-50 is colder than I have been forced to endure,but my argo avenger does put out a lot of heat. especially when you are running it hard,like snow tracks etc. there is no doubt that the hdi s run a bit hotter than mine. I pull my coffee cup holders out so that the air blown by the rad fan keeps the windshield clear. as a note my 31 hp. kohler seldom goes over 170 f. i have seen a trick where the space around the exhaust pipe in the metal box is restricted from exiting by a piece of metal plate. This seems a little dangerous to me but I guess it depends how cold it is.Originally posted by mooselegs72 View Post8x8 hdi liquid, been too cold to ride (-40/-50 wind chills).
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So, are you running it from your Argo battery, with some kind of resistor to make your power 6volts?Originally posted by BigMerv View PostWell.........I hesitate to share my secrets, but...there was an old aftermarket company called SouthWind heaters that sold their GASOLINE powered car heaters throught Stewart Warner here in the USA. One man has bought the entire stock of these heaters and is selling them. They are simple, safe, and reliable. I'm ordering one for my Conquest. My uncle used these heaters in his old hot rods and VW kit cars. They work great and use the gasoline from the carburetor float bowl. Heres the link:
South Wind Heater - Products
RD
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Well.........I hesitate to share my secrets, but...there was an old aftermarket company called SouthWind heaters that sold their GASOLINE powered car heaters throught Stewart Warner here in the USA. One man has bought the entire stock of these heaters and is selling them. They are simple, safe, and reliable. I'm ordering one for my Conquest. My uncle used these heaters in his old hot rods and VW kit cars. They work great and use the gasoline from the carburetor float bowl. Heres the link:
South Wind Heater - Products
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I think my model year is 2012 with factory heat. If I were living in a more northern climate i would divert heat through 2 vents instead of one that is in front of driver just behind windscreen. It does work well and we use it all the time just would add a second vent
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The Factory Argo Heater for your HDi uses your Glycol Cooling system as a heat source, it comes as a kit.Originally posted by Aztoak View PostIs there a feasible way (in the case of your water pumper) to divert non-engine compartment air from the radiator without endangering the engine of overheating or endangering you to carbon monoxide? Maybe similar to the vacuum door valves in auto heaters.
You will have trouble directing heated air from your Rad to the engine compartment, there is almost no way to "Catch it" with the way the ducting is designed. Also, snow thrown up from your tracks will get sucked into the Fresh Air Intake, if you direct this very moist air into your cab, it will fog you right up.
I know this is going to sound a little strange, but I use a Generator to power a small electric heater for my cab (If I think I'm going to need it). I put the generator out on my back rack, with a piece of plywood or styrafoam between the gen and the cab, can hardly hear it out there. This has a few advantages:
If I'm out over night I can use the generator wherever I am, for lights, heat, ect, I can bring my gen inside my cabin or tent, so it's warm and will start the next day. I can use the gen to heat up the Argo before I even try to start it in sub zero temps. I can use it as a battery carger, it will keep the kids warm in the Argo if they get cold out on an ice fishing trip. I will always have heat, even in the event of an Argo Breakdown.
I use a Honda 2000 EU, but a 1000 would probably work fine. Neither one uses more than a thimble's worth of fuel.
I'm a firm believer in having backup plans
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Hmmmm, aperently I already said that, lol
RDLast edited by Rock Doctor; 03-27-2013, 05:02 PM.
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I'm sure not impressed with the factory heater in my 2011 750 HDi. I have had it out here in interior Alaska in the past couple weeks and at 10 above it blows cool air into the cab and then very little air at that. When I stop and idle the air blowing into the cab does actually get warm. What a waste of money. I think there are better ways to heat the inside of ones covered argo. I recently purchased this HDi and the heater kit was already installed and a sloppy job on the install I might add. Anyway use of the engine heat would be one way to heat your cab, such as a small fan in the fire wall maybe to blow the engine heat into the cab area? Maybe route the engine heat to the already installed factory heater with use of HVAC or dryer ducting? Just a thought. There is also the plug in 12V DC heater route but like mentioned in earlier post a guy might want the alternator kit because a plug in version might drain your battery.
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Is there a feasible way (in the case of your water pumper) to divert non-engine compartment air from the radiator without endangering the engine of overheating or endangering you to carbon monoxide? Maybe similar to the vacuum door valves in auto heaters.
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I just went out and took some pics of my heater, I dont know if its factory or not but it is the cats ass on a cold day. i love cruising around without a jacket or gloves. also it keeps my windshield from fogging up. I dont have an alt and have never had a battery issue. as you can see in the pictures, it is mounted to a heat sheild on the exhaust and blows in a piece of 3" tube with the flick of a toggle.


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Doc, I like your thinking. I have a little Honda genset, it could do all sorts of good things in any season, including keeping the adult beverages cold or making ice, perhaps even running the blender for the more exotic concoctions!
Argos are fun, but this just opened up a whole new book of good times.Last edited by montague; 02-06-2013, 04:37 PM.
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I've used those 12V heaters in my truck, and they do draw a fair bit of juice, I don't think the Argo charging system would keep up.
I've also used the Mr Heater, Portable Buddy Heaters (Propane) in Ice fishing shacks, and could not take it. The exhaust/fumes were too much. It didn't kill me, but it noticably effected my breathing.
I also don't have a Heater system, but what I have done in the past, is this: The rack on the back of my Conquest sticks out far enough to strap a small generator on it, outside the cab. Put an electric heater inside the cab, and plug it into the generator. I like this for a couple reasons, I can warm everything up before I even start the Argo, only run it when I have to, and I can shut it off whenever I want, If something happens to the Argo, I still have heat. It is a "roundabout" way of doing things, but seems to work for me.
RD
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mine is liquid cooled. I was going to add heat but since running it in very cold weather i see no use in it for me if you really want some heat take fire wall out and you will be in shorts for sure.
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My conquest has a heater , But I never use it . It is warm in side. As I climb up the cabin in the middel of the night. -10 out side in side. I have my coat off and just injoying the drive.Originally posted by reichstall View Posti drive a conquest and really cant see a need for one i have no promblem in cold weather. with the heat from the motor and steering system coming through the fire wall last week was zero and i was comfortable.Attached Files
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Unless you have an alternator kit, I am thinking that would be a lot of draw on the charging circuit and likely flatten your battery quickly even when running the engine.
The small propane heater suggested in another post (use very carefully) might be your best bet.
Me, I have an 06 Avenger with liquid cooled engine and to be blunt, heat coming through the firewall is a curse most of the time but kind of nice in below zero temps.
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