Conquest axles - are they different?

[mitchamus]

Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone can help me,

Can anyone tell me if the Argo conquest front/rear Axles change at all over the different years?

I was of the understanding that they are all the same for the conquests?

can anyone shed some light on this?

I am having trouble ordering a new one as my machine doesn't have a VIN number or anything.

any info appreciated...

cheers,
Mitch.

[Rock Doctor]

As far as I know they are all the same. I have conquests from the '80's'90's, and a 2004. All the same.
But if it was me, I would start putting in HDI Axles as the originals wear out, break, or bend.

RD

[Rock Doctor]

There is a slight difference between corner axles and Center axles.
The amount of paint on the shaft. More paint for Center axles, as they stick out of the outer bearing further than the corner axles with bearing extensions.

RD

[mitchamus]

thanks for the help RD, I figured as much.

I just went back to every Conquest parts manual and checked every one, and exact same part number is for every model for the front axle 810-73.

Now I can ring the supplier back and tell them I was right.

Nothing fills you with confidence like finding out you know more than the 'argo specialist'

GRRRRR.

[mitchamus]

Are the HD axles a straight swap with the standard bearing housings?

[ARGOJIM]

The new axles are direct fit, believe they have since superceded the 810-73 axle.

[mitchamus]

yes they have - and there is no old stock in Australia of the old axle anyway.

new HD axles are $145.55 AUD.
and new rims are $59.99 AUD.

compared to $88 and $40 in the US.

shipping is the killer though... and that's what the AUS retailers bank on...

[Supermag]

The HD axles are the same as the conquest as far as length, diameter and sprocket set screw location. The only difference is the flange is greatly improved over the old 2part stamped flanges. I payed just under 90$ for mine plus the governments share.

[Rock Doctor]

thanks for the help RD, I figured as much.

I just went back to every Conquest parts manual and checked every one, and exact same part number is for every model for the front axle 810-73.

Now I can ring the supplier back and tell them I was right.

Nothing fills you with confidence like finding out you know more than the 'argo specialist'

GRRRRR.

That sounds normal. Whenever I go for parts, the dealer asks me what yr my Conquest is, and depending on what parts I need, I always say "Doesn't matter, they're all the same". Dealer responce is always the same.... "No they are not" (with a questioning look). I just play dumb, and say "OH? Lets look it up shall we?"
Of course I know there are some different parts. I love going in and asking for HDI Parts for my Conquest.... That really confuses them:
ME: I need some HDI Outer Bearings
DEALER: What year is your HDI
ME: Doesn't matter, they are all the same
DEALER: No they're not
ME: I'm putting them on my Conquest
DEALER: Huh, you can't do that
ME: I'd like to buy some HDI Outer Bearings please
DEALER: Those don't fit a Conquest
ME: They fit mine
DEALER Which ones fit your Conquest
ME: HDI Outer Bearings
DEALER: Which HDI Outer Bearings
ME: The only HDI Outer Bearings
DEALER: The early HDI's had different Outer Bearings (Sounding Very Fruserated)
ME: The Early HDI's were not HDI's, they were Avengers
DEALER: That's the same thing
ME: NO, They're not, they have different Bearings
DEALER: So, what do you want?
ME: HDI Outer Bearings (At this point I usually have to pull one of my spare HDI Outers from my pocket and place it on the counter)
ME: I need some of these, please
DEALER: Those don't fit in a Conquest
And around we go again, lol. Next time I go in I think I'll ask for an HDI Center Axle to replace the front right axle on my Conquest, lol.

Most dealers are pretty good and a pleasure to deal with, others...... are fun to play with sometimes. Of course I could just go in and ask for Outer Axle Bearings for a 2010 HDI, and leave it at that, but where's the fun in it?

RD

[hydromike]

This was just perfect, and I understand the frustration. Throughout the process of building or repairing a machine, I invariabley have to go to NAPA. My favorite thing is asking for the alternators I put on the Kubota engines.

ME: I need a GM one-wire alternator; something in the neighborhood of 60-80 amps output.
NAPA: What's it for?
ME: It's for something custom.
NAPA: Well, I need to know a part number to look it up in the system.
ME <mulling it over in my head...> How about an alternator for a 1978 GMC 1500 pickup?
NAPA: What engine?
ME: ARRRGH!

I've learned to walk in with the part, or a part number. When you say 1978 Royco Super Swamp Fox, or 1969 Challenger Newt the Bold, their heads turn around about twice. For the Newt, I'm going to need to remember the Kubota engine information, the T-20 information, and the transfer case specifics to a 1978 Ramcharger should I ever need parts.

The rest is custom.

[fmints]

I DO APPLAUD TO THE HUMOR!!!!! Im laughing sooooo hard that all of Afghanistan can hear me!!! Rock Doctor and Hydro,,, You guys are hilarious!!!!

I've been in similar situations myself but these two stories are more entertaining. Thanks Guys!!

[garretttpe]

LMAO
I am in Afghanistan and I thought I heard someone " LAUGHING".

Larry

[marshgunner]

I used to work at my local parts store and was used to hearing they are all the same. One day a fella came in and said that he needed a alternator for his Chevy blazer. So I asked him what year, and he said it does not matter they are all the same. So not want g to argue I walked to the back room and picked up the most expensive Gm alternator we had and sold him that one because (they are all the same).
About a hour later he came back in a bad mood because I had sold him the wrong part. I looked him straight in the face and told him that it could not be wrong because THEY ARE ALL THE SAME, RIGHT.

[mitchamus]

sounds like he meant all the Chevy Blazer alternators are the same,
not that ALL GM alternators are the same.....sounds like you didn't sell him a blazer alternator.

(hides under desk)

[KBSAK]

This was just perfect, and I understand the frustration. Throughout the process of building or repairing a machine, I invariabley have to go to NAPA. My favorite thing is asking for the alternators I put on the Kubota engines.

ME: I need a GM one-wire alternator; something in the neighborhood of 60-80 amps output.
NAPA: What's it for?
ME: It's for something custom.
NAPA: Well, I need to know a part number to look it up in the system.
ME <mulling it over in my head...> How about an alternator for a 1978 GMC 1500 pickup?
NAPA: What engine?
ME: ARRRGH!

I've learned to walk in with the part, or a part number. When you say 1978 Royco Super Swamp Fox, or 1969 Challenger Newt the Bold, their heads turn around about twice. For the Newt, I'm going to need to remember the Kubota engine information, the T-20 information, and the transfer case specifics to a 1978 Ramcharger should I ever need parts.

The rest is custom.

Ug, went through the same routine just trying to get some fuel line and fuel filters for my '85 I/C.

Have to look up fuel line by year model and make?

There isn't just a roll of it back there and if I say I want 10', you take a tape measure and measure / cut 10'?

Then go over to the fuel filters and locate one that fits the fuel line you just cut?