Argo trans kinda Noisy,,

[micmac]

Well it's sure must be nice to have a son that can do work like that. Nice work it looks great! Looking forward to you geting it back together and some more videos.

[m350]

Update,,Well the shaft I got from Argo was the wrong shaft ! The output shaft that fits my BigFoot, has 6 spline on one end, 2 -1/4" keyways on the other end,,,the shaft Argo sent me had 6 spline on both ends,(newer part) my parts manual is for a newer serial # Bigfoot !

So today my son brought the old shaft to Tech school he is in Machine,Tool, turned it down,,made a sleeve, to fit, with a tight interface heated it up,,slid it on,,,turned the shaft down to the proper size,,,here it is,, Before and after:

[m350]

Yes Robio,,,On any of the bearings that went on or in,,to easy,, they were removed,, cleaned of any oil,, and retaining compound was used to lock it in place ! We did'nt have the camera today.

[Robio_8x8]

Argo part #34-98

How is the seating on the out side of the bearing? It is unusual to see the hardened shaft worn like that and not the soft cast aluminum around the out side but I am only going by the outboard motors I have serviced.

you may want to add some retaining compound between the bearing an shaft
Loctite makes some I am not sure if it is 609, 638, 640 or 648 but Loctite has a technical support line you can call

http://www.atlanticfasteners.com/graphics2/hp-picts/2-9-06/loctite_609t_retaining_com.jpg

other brands may have retaining compound too but I am not sure on the performance.



I find it is good to take pictures or even video dissembling and rebuilds even for ones own reference in case you second guess your self when putting it back together.

Thank you for posting your pictures

[evil8x8]

Bilge pump.. I have one similar to your bilge pump. It's mounted in the chain well behind the front axle. It's clamped to the frame cross member behind the front axle(the member your pump is sitting up against now) The bilge outlet points to the rear and goes under the member, then is plumbed upward in pvc.

I bought a similar bilge pump, I don't know how or where to mount it yet. Yours sounds like it turned out nice. Could you post a picture of exactly where and how your bilge pump is mounted. Thanks

[m350]

Hey all,,we did pretty well today,,I found all 10 bearings and 2 seals for the Argo trans today at a rather local shop that has a magnificent bearing selection,for about $200,,,,and we have all but 2 of them installed in the trans.! I contacted William T. Barnes Argo, in Cambridge MD. and talked to Donna in parts,,,ordered output shaft (under $48), 1-seal, plugplate, revers bushing and 2 shims.all for under $85 with shipping,,,,I was pleasently surprised on the shaft price! If all parts get here by the end of week..the BigFoot will be back in action by sunday,,if all goes right. Later,,,Mark

[m350]

Oddly enough Mike,,,one of the hardest things to remove was the trans. cover,,believe it or not! Here's why,,pull the bolts,,and # 21 retaining ring, there was 2 threaded holes to insert 2 of the cover bolts,,to help seperate the cover from the case,(push's the cover off),part # 22 is the reverse idler shaft,,when they replaced reverse gear,,,there is that bushing, that needs to be pressed in,,,well they did'nt press it in flush to the gear,,so it was sticking out maybe 1/16"(maybe the gear came like that) on the cover side,,well that 1/16" chowed the cover just slightly, which in turn made a burr or shrunk the hole, not allowing the cover to slide off the shaft # 22,,after some soft type prying,,brass punching and some expletive %@&*$ words, we found that shaft # 22 was the hang up, and finaly got it apart. There are also some BIG, mean, retaining rings..2.5 to 3.0" approx,,took some rather large snap ring pliers to remove,,about it so far.,,,,I am glad I did not attempt this myself,,as it took 2 of us to hold, pry, punch, and a good solid steel bench, and a few tools I do not have,,Tis Good to know a "Master of the Mechanical stuff" for when you really need him ! will keep informed,,later,,Mark

[Mike]

That sucks. Don't you hate when neglect of others costs you time and money, especially when it would have taken only a couple of extra steps and a little money to avoid. Hopefully the output shaft won't cost you too much $$$ though. How hard was the transmission to disassemble?

I guess on the bright side, you are half way there now and you know what's wrong. Keep us updated on the rebuild and installation. If there are any tricky areas or good tips that you want to share it would probably help someone else in the future.

[m350]

OK guys,,hers's a few pics of the Argo trans apart,,,note the shaft my hand is on,,that notch or chowed area,,,is not suppose to be there ! Anyone have a good used output shaft #12 on the Argo trans parts breakdown ??

Also the pic of the case cover with the bearings in it,(sorry sucky pic),,the bearing has been chewed up before,,(must have been the reverse idler gear,,thinking a new reverse idler gear was replaced),,,just as the output shaft was damaged before,,,and put back together,,,"DAMAGED",,,,with a new bearing in the case,,,but using a POS output shaft !!! Fricken HACKERS !!!! most of the bearings were fine,,but a couple were pitted,,but all will be replaced !

Will be calling for parts in the AM.

[Roger S]

I have to pull the chain off and slide the axle sprocket inward to work in there. The screw on the clamp fits in the recess of the sprocket.. tight fit.

[m350]

I can visualize it Roger,,thanks,,great idea,,I think the pump I have will fit in there. Hey McCoy,,,looks like you and the other guys have a great time in the Videos ! The electric fuel pump on my BigFoot does'nt look stock,,I will take a look under the seat though ! Waiting on a call now,,to go tear the Argo trans apart,,,,will take some pics of the tear down. later,,,,Mark

[McCoy]

As far as I know, an electric fuel pump was not standard on the Bigfoot. Mine is a 2006 and I added an electric pump. There is actually a bracket under the seat where a pump can be mounted.

McCoy

[Roger S]

I used hose clamps. One around the pump body, and another clamp, under the first clamp and around the frame member. I'll try to get a pic some time. It's a tight fit, not all pumps will fit, but it gets all but about a pint of water out of the hull!

Havn't had the body 1/2's apart, but did clean out and silicone the seam.

[m350]

Roger,,the chain well does look like a great place to mount the bilge pump,,lowest point in the tub,,,as long as it is mounted securly. Would zip tie's mount the pump secure enough ?

Another ?,,when you all put your upper body back on the lower tub,,,do you use a sealer to keep water out ? When we seperated the 2 halves,,there was foam tape,(was loose and hanging) on the lower tub flange,,,but when in the water,,both side's leaked in the rear upper corners,,when tires were propelling forward,,,coming from under the small rear seats,,would see the water running down into the tub.

[Roger S]

Bilge pump.. I have one similar to your bilge pump. It's mounted in the chain well behind the front axle. It's clamped to the frame cross member behind the front axle(the member your pump is sitting up against now) The bilge outlet points to the rear and goes under the member, then is plumbed upward in pvc.