High torque trans

[DualQuad]

Looking to buy my first argo, 2014 750 HDI. Planning on adair tracks should I get the low gear high tourqe trans? Thanks for any advice in advance.

[inspcalahan]

Looking to buy my first argo, 2014 750 HDI. Planning on adair tracks should I get the low gear high tourqe trans? Thanks for any advice in advance.

Yes - Argo's aren't about speed, but where they will go. Quite often, slow and steady will amaze you. The Argo dealer in Alaska orders all their inventory (for the most part I'm told) with the low gear tranny as standard equipment due to the frequent use of tracks and heavy payload up here.

[DualQuad]

I will be using it for hunting here in Arkansas, May not ever have heavy loads on it. I don't want it to be under powered. Is just the low range different or high and low, or does it just have low range with that trans?

[DualQuad]

Dealers here not very helpful except 1 and I haven't asked him about it.

[DualQuad]

I also want to go on some rides, have been watching vids, looks like everyone has a great time!

[2014SE]

Lots of guys like the high torque but my new 2014 750 HDI come with high torque and I'm having it changed to standard and I'm running Escargo tracks. To each their own but I don't haul anything but me and a passenger or 2, a snow shovel, jet boil and a ax, occasionally I bring my little stihl chain saw. I've never had to use low range ever other than for tight turns, U turns on a trail or similar. Even with me and 3 passengers In the snow with tracks I found the argo was to low geared but again that's MY personal preference. Theirs one other member on this site that ended up with a high torque and wants it changed out too so I'm not alone on this. If all your trails are in the bush and in the hills that's one reason for lower gearing but if your riding in a aeria like here in Alberta where the majority of the trails are cut lines and streight that's a reason for higher gearing. Personally I find the machine has to be wide open all the time to get where you want to go. If you have the opertunity test drive one or if possible both before you buy.

You'll like your machine either way, high torque or standard.

[DualQuad]

Thanks for the info!!!!!

[Noel Woods]

I would go with the lower gearing. I know several dealers and they also recommend the low gears.

[Buzz]

If my extra set of tuners was shorter (they're 5") I'd send the dang things to you 2014SE, if it meant you might try them. I always feel bad telling anyone to spend more money. But it will give you some more of what your after (speed). Your CVT will provide more speed if the load goes down. If you're using a fair bit of throttle currently, that's another dead giveaway.

[foxvalley]

I also am a big fan of the high torque 8.4 trans. Just got her (2013HDI with pro series tracks) up to 15mph,in 8" of powder, just as fast as my old 2011 with the 6.4 trans would go, FYI.

[DualQuad]

I am planning on running tuners, everything I read on here says that is the way to go.

[foxvalley]

I would go with the lower gearing. I know several dealers and they also recommend the low gears.

Yesterday while blazing a trail (video) the terrain was very heavily laced with hummocks, narrow lanes between trees, and tight turns. The 8.4 trans in granny gear is simply wonderful is this type of situation. The speed to rpm ratio is spot on,as I can keep the rpms up while easing up, over and around all the obtacles.The 6.4 in granny was just a smidge faster, while at a lower rpm,which felt like the unit was working harder,and doesn't have the same effortless feeling as the 8.4.It's easy to hear the higher rpm and slow speed in the video.

[2014SE]

If my extra set of tuners was shorter (they're 5") I'd send the dang things to you 2014SE, if it meant you might try them. I always feel bad telling anyone to spend more money. But it will give you some more of what your after (speed). Your CVT will provide more speed if the load goes down. If you're using a fair bit of throttle currently, that's another dead giveaway.

"This reply is not intended to discredit you or your opinion"

First off I don't want to sound rude Buzz, I know you mean well BUT. Money's not a issue here, I'm not about to say and my income is no ones business but mine and my wife's but I'll tell you we are very comfortable. I don't know why your so concerned with my machine and what I'm doing with it. If I wear out some chains and or sprockets I'll get the parts and change them myself. I know what you think about it, ok, You can't seem to figure out that I don't care. I may one day get or build a set of tuners but for now I can't be bothered. I'm not your average joe with no idea how to build or fix equipment. I spent the first 17 years of my working life owning and running logging equipment, if something broke down I fixed it myself. The last 20 I'm the trades as a welder and machinist and am able to build, repair and design machinery and parts. As a apprentice I worked with a machinist and we redesigned a natural gas compressor. Changed the running time from 10,000 hours to over 33,000. Stresses, loads, torques, power, metallurgy, how material wear when run one against the other, weldability of metals, been there and done it. I just don't want track tuners. Roc doctor here on this site had one break, a guy in Alaska had one break and had to walk out 8 miles, a few others had them break. Their MIG welded and you shouldn't weld high carbon steel like C1045 shaft with MIG. flux core, TIG with ER70-S or low hydrogen rod like 70-18, TIG is best. Again I don't want to sound rude and I never been responding to your comments because I'm not interested in a internet hissing match with someone I don't know. You have valuable experience and opinion and I appreciate that, I have mine. because your opinion is different than mine don't mean either of us is wrong, we just have a different point of view.

DualQuad asked a question and I stated my point of view. I thought that is what this internet site is for.

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This reply is not intended to discredit you or your opinion!!

[thebuggyman1]

Wow, As I understand it, your concern about the track tuners is: Possible breakage due to the welds? Why not just try making a set yourself? There are sooooo many moving parts on a AATV that COULD break while 8 miles back in the bush.....the only way to make sure to not get stranded is to NEVER GO ANYWHERE REMOTE ALONE. That is good safety advise whether you are on a machine, horseback, or even on foot.
Due to the simple concept of a track tuner, I doubt they have any higher rate of breakage than any other part.
You could try an experiment: try removing your rear chains (j-shaft back) and see if that helps. Without driving the rear tires you could have some tire to track slippage, but it may just answer the question of "would a set of track tuners help".

[radar]

Do the 6x6 have the same tranny options and is it as important since the machine and tracks are both smaller and lighter.