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  • Breakdowns in the field.

    I'd like to start a thread so everyone can share their experiences of any issues they encountered while out with their Argo, and what was done to get going again. I had a few issues last fall and winter but managed to get back to the trail thanks to the tips I got from this site.

    Last fall during our hunting trip with 3 Argo's, I experienced a sudden engine stoppage on my '99 conquest. We Ruled out the fuel pump by removing the fuel line at the carb and had good flow with the ignition turned on. We removed the fuel shut off valve on the carb and tested it. There was no reaction when turning the ignition from on to off and holding the threads to ground. I proceeded to snip off the pin of the shut off valve with a pair of side cutters due to a post I read on this site. (thanks Rock Doctor). Installed the modified shut off valve and it started right up.

    Without the information I got from that post I would have scratched my head for quite some time.
    I am looking forward to reading about your field fixes.

    Dave

  • #2
    Got a friend who swamped his machine while running, it injested water and came close to sinking. We towed him out of a creek, towed him back to camp, drained the oil and pulled the oil filter, and air filter, then pulled the plugs and spun the motor over to shoot water out of the cylinders, once done, we cranked it back to life and it seemed to run better than before.

    It took a couple of oil changes to get all the water out and to get the oil looking non milk shake like, we also changed the tranny fluid, and all in all, the machine was running better than ever a couple hours later.

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    • #3
      2002 argo conquest
      A friend of mine was constantly blowing fuses on his ignition side fuse block. Mainly the main fuse. He also noticed his low voltage light would come on from time to time, and his voltage guage would read low voltage. We swapped voltage regulators with no noticeable difference. We spent the better part of the afternoon looking for a bare wire as we were depleting our stock of spare fuses, 19 miles in the bush and only 2 days into a 7 day hunting trip. We ended up finding a bare spot on the fuel shut off valve wire from the exhaust heat. It would ground out from time to time causing the fuse to blow. We did not understand why the main fuse was failing rather than the fuel shut off fuse. It was found that the previous owner had replaced the fuel shut off fuse with a 40 amp (probably because he was blowing fuses) thus causing the 30 amp main to fail first. No issues since the repairs were made and all the proper fuses were installed as per the Argo service manual. We were fortunate that we had 4 Argos on that trip and that everyone had an assortment of spare fuses.

      Dave

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      • #4
        1990 8x8 I/C Magnum.

        On Saturday my quad's battery died about 10 miles into the bush so I hiked out.

        I was doing a solo retrieve of my quad on Sunday and was pulling a trailer with my Argo.

        Hit a log and bent an axle on the front right of the Argo. Could not move forward at all even after unhooking the trailer.

        Winched myself away from the trailer and found that I could spin the Argo around and could even drive backwards (wouldn't go forward - it would just spin the Argo in a circle).

        I was about 4 miles from the quad so I drove in reverse until I reached the quad.

        Boosted the quad and then drove out to get the trailer.

        Went back to the Argo and winched it onto the trailer.

        Got 2/3 of the way back and then got a flat on the trailer.

        Went back to town and grabbed the spare that I didn't have room for that morning.

        Finally got home Sunday night at 10:00 pm.

        .... all that just to say that a person should make sure that their Argo is truly disabled before leaving it in the bush. I was lucky and found that, even with one bent front axle, my Argo would still travel in reverse - that saved me another pile of walking.
        Chris
        1989 I/C Magnum
        Manitoba, Canada

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        • #5
          I was out with my "new to me" Argo 6x6 the other day and had my first "in the bush failure". The left brake lever broke off, after inspection it was obvious it had been repair poorly in the past.

          this sucked


          The "get me home" repair solution was a pair of Vise grips to use as a foot brake. It actually worked quite well.

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          • #6
            Zuk, same issue with a V2 though hydraulic brakes, same repair worked for me.
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            • #7
              Lets revive this old thread.

              Had a couple lately.
              Was out checking wells and obviously pushed a stick into the belly pan on the avenger...course it wasn't obvious until I was in 8' of water what had happened. It also became obvious very quickly that the bilge pump wasn't working. Got it to dry land..but barely. The back end was waterlogged once I got onto shore.

              I lost the rear cylinder the other day on the same avenger. 20kms back in the bush, across 2 creeks..i pulled the plugs, tried a new coil..couldn't get spark on the cylinder to save my soul..limped it home on 1 hole..long long trip. got it home and found that the ground wire to the coil on the rear cylinder was broken inside the insulation.

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              • #8
                The 20hp kawi Engines do not like old fuel, it will cause the Head Valves to stick. If you know you have old fuel, try adding some ATF to your fuel to help Lubricate the Valves while you burn through the old gas. The symptoms of old fuel are similar to water in the gas, sputtering, caughing, poor idle, ect. If you can catch it soon enough, add some ATF oil to your gas. If you don't catch it soon enough, you might skip a Push Rod out from under a Rocker Arm. Remove Push Rod, and straighten if bent (Axe and Tree Stump will work). If the Valve is stuck, try to work it free with some Penitrating oil and a Hammer Handle. Once you work the valve free, reassemble and continue on your way.

                Dead Fuel Pump (Conquest):
                The 20hp Kawi will gravity feed. Parts required: Pop Bottle and some spare fuel line (You can use existing fuel line if you want to pull it out)
                Make a round hole in Pop Bottle Cap, just big enough to squeeze your fuel line into (You dont want it to leak too much)
                Cut a slit in the side of Pop Bottle, near the bottom of the bottle.
                Run fuel line from bottle to Carb
                Mount Bottle upsidedown above Hood with watever you have handy (Tree Branches and Duct Tape work well)
                Pour some gas into Pop Bottle through slit near bottle base (The slit will limit the amount of gas that wants to splash out of bottle, as well as allow air into bottle)
                Fire up and drive home (Add Fuel to Bottle as required)

                RD

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                • #9
                  this did not happen on the trail but could cause some serious problems for our electronic ignition, electric start machines. My 99 conquest has an alternator kit. I make sure to always have a good battery. The argo had been parked for about 3 weeks when I attempted to start it only to find a dead battery. I hooked up my booster pack and fired it up. it was charging at about 13.5 volts. I noticed my voltage slowly rising to 15 volts during my 2 hour ride. the next day I attempted crank over the engine but the battery was drained again. After removing the battery and charging it on a trickle charger, the battery would keep its charge to full power. when I reinstalled the battery in the machine, I noticed a faint blue spark when I connected the alternator wire to the battery. I removed the alternator belt and hooked up the original charging system. My dead battery issues were gone. All the wires associated with the alternator were ok. I removed the alternator and brought it to a repair shop. they found that the internal voltage regulator was faulty and caused the alternator to ground out. after an 80$ overhaul, I was back in business and charging at 14 volts.
                  Hope this helps.

                  Dave

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                  • #10
                    While on a ride in my Argo, and a friend with his Max2, his throttle broke about as far back in a 4500 acre swamp that we could be. I had a spare twist style cable with me but he didn't have a back-up. We left my Argo on a Beaver dam and took turns driving the Max2 with one man driving and the other in the awkward position of reaching back to the motor and moving the throttle by hand. Several hours later we were back in camp. After scrounging thru what was available in the tool box, I found an old throttle off a small Chinese motor bike, and after some fiddling managed to get that to work, then we drove back into the swamp and retrieved the Argo. That was back in 2007. The last time I saw the Max 2 in question, the improvised throttle was still on the machine and working properly.

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