kawaski 20hp bogging down

[shizzles2]

Hi, after my argo magnums kohler died on me I transplanted in a Kawasaki 20hp from a conquest, and it ran like a dream, could turn from a dead stop in high. however a few I had an issue with the driven clutch sticking so I took it out and freed it up with some wd-40 and everything seemed fine, however now it cant turn without it taking a huge circle and a bunch of short bursts and can barely pull through mild mud in high. everything seems normal in low but I just seem to lose all power in high and as the rpms climb I seem to have less power.
I recently cleaned the carb and everything is running great but I just cant work out the power loss issue, im thinking its an issue with the driven clutch? would anyone know where to start with this?
thanks

[Deedeelin1]

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[shizzles2]

hmm we did a full carb strip down recently and im pretty sure im already on champion plugs, which were also replaced recently. although ill pull the plugs again when im checking my idler shafts and front chains. ( weird grinding noise , doesn't seem to be transmission related, im thinking worn idler shaft bearing or maybe brakes)

[shizzles2]

okay, stripped the clutch down and found out that the clutch just need re-adjusting, back to doing 360 turns in high gear. however the really scary sounding rattle has not gone away, I know its not coming from the engine and I noticed the bronze bushing in the secondary clutch seemed very worn, the rattling noise gets worse with higher revs as the driven clutch engages, does anyone know if the bushing could be the problem?

[ARGOJIM]

okay, stripped the clutch down and found out that the clutch just need re-adjusting, back to doing 360 turns in high gear. however the really scary sounding rattle has not gone away, I know its not coming from the engine and I noticed the bronze bushing in the secondary clutch seemed very worn, the rattling noise gets worse with higher revs as the driven clutch engages, does anyone know if the bushing could be the problem?

Yes, good self diagnosis.

[dale7637]

okay, stripped the clutch down and found out that the clutch just need re-adjusting, back to doing 360 turns in high gear. however the really scary sounding rattle has not gone away, I know its not coming from the engine and I noticed the bronze bushing in the secondary clutch seemed very worn, the rattling noise gets worse with higher revs as the driven clutch engages, does anyone know if the bushing could be the problem?

Yep, that would certainly do it!
For the price and the time, I would rebuild both clutches while you have them off.

[rapidroy]

Shizzles, what does the rattling sound like? Does it go "ting-ting"? It could be the pulley on the driven clutch hitting the disk brake rotor at hi revs from a bad bushing or a bad bearing on the trans input shaft.
Happy hunting... RR

[shizzles2]

ive changed the bushing which was very worn, however now its contacting the brake disc and the whole cutch assembly seems to have spread apart along the shaft so im going to take it back off and see what I have put together wrong.
also whats involved in rebuilding the driven clutch? the primary clutch had a rebuild recently I think. ( its from an earlier argo than my gearbox is)
(sorry for the late reply, been busy with college and have just got back round to my argo)
thanks,

[ARGOJIM]

Sounds as if the snap ring came loose. There are spacers that many late G,M,H transmissions run to space the driven.