Argo Avenger Fuel Filter

[Zircon]

I need to replace the fuel filter on a 2009 Argo Avenger 750 EFI 8x8. That's the filter that's tucked up on the left as you look at the machine from the rear. I only took a quick glance at it, but I'm pretty sure it's a clear plastic filter with a paper element inside. Anyhow, when I checked online the number was 24 050 03. When I checked farther, that looks like a metal body filter that you can't see inside. To complicate matters when I checked with the distributor here in the province, they don't have the filters ... that's the 24 050 03 ... they are on order ... and they don't know when they will be in! Ok, so
1. Is that the right filter ... the metal body one?
2. Is there a substitute that I could use ... say from NAPA or somewhere like that. I really need it now. I'm having some fuel related problems and I'm prettier sure it's a dirty filter.
If you can help, I'd sure appreciate it! Thanks.

[curtisbyrne]

the metal body is for aegi s775 engine and the platic one is for the LH690 so yes its the right one. you can probably just buy one yes.

[Zircon]

That's the thing ... I can't buy it. They are not in stock. On order, but no idea when they will be in. Aegi s775? LH 690? Not sure what you mean here.

[msafi65]

The filter on the left is low pressure and any automotive in line filter will work there. I believe they use 5/16" filters but might be 1/4" hose. The later EFI went to a filter on the end of the drop tube in the tank. I've had so many of those plug up I prefer the inline setup. The high pressure fuel filter just past the pump is a NAPA#3310. Hope this helps out.

[Zircon]

Thanks. I thought it might be a low pressure filter. Looks like something that used to be on 12 HP Elan snowmobile I used to have years ago. However, the 24 050 03 filter is the one that the Argo Avenger parts manual has pictured over on the left. And I crossed checked NAPA and that is the 3310. That's a little confusing since it seems like it should be past the fuel pump. So I definitely wouldn't put the 3310 from NAPA over there on the left. Right?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6d...MyNVAtTlk/view Scroll down to Pg. 17. Looks like #47 is the one I'm talking about.


Never mind! That view is from the front ... not the rear. So, it's the #44 and its in the right place. Of course, the 24 050 03 maybe should be replaced, too.

[curtisbyrne]

your engine is a kohler aegis 775 30HP engine

[curtisbyrne]

Welcome to Argo Adventure -

[msafi65]

My manual shows the hi pressure filter scheduled to replace every 1000 hr. I've had them pluged at 200 hr so you be the judge there. The inlet filter is very important to keep clean as a drop in fuel pressure of 4 lbs makes the idle poor and low power.

[plott hound]

The filter on the left is low pressure and any automotive in line filter will work there. I believe they use 5/16" filters but might be 1/4" hose. The later EFI went to a filter on the end of the drop tube in the tank. I've had so many of those plug up I prefer the inline setup. The high pressure fuel filter just past the pump is a NAPA#3310. Hope this helps out.

thanks for that part number from napa.i just ordered one for my HDI.

[plott hound]

the metal body is for aegi s775 engine and the platic one is for the LH690 so yes its the right one. you can probably just buy one yes.

?????? huh??????????

[Zircon]

Yes, it certainly sounds like the culprit. I had it up in the mountains a few days ago ... I uploaded a photo earlier today ... and there was a noticeable loss of power on the grade. So I'll try the low pressure first and then if that doesn't work I'll try to get the 3310 from NAPA. I notice according to the online store the low pressure one is discontinued. But I have one that fits a Frontier and Vanguard, # 125-64, ( http://argoparts.com/i-14316651-125-64-filter-fuel.html) so I'll try that. Thanks again! I appreciate it.

[Zircon]

I did some more research and I found that the filter I want to replace 608-71 has been discontinued. But more than that. It is not even used anymore! Instead the job it used to do is now done by a new pickup tube 608-127. Apparently when under stress the filter in question used to create cavitation and that caused the fuel pump to perform poorly. There is a Bulletin from Argo that you can check out. Also, it gives an excellent description ... with photographs ... on how to replace it. You can check it out here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6dar38RLIxAWTlITE9aeUw3SDQ/view

So, I have to scrap the old filter, the short connecting hoses and elbow and install the new pickup tube.

[msafi65]

Thanks for that info. Wasn't sure why they changed. I have been having so much trouble with the filters on inside of tank that several people have converted back to external filters before the pump. The little plastic filter from the factory wasn't a very sturdy body. I have been using metal case filters. If you convert I would not reinstall the rivits in under seat storage so the drop tube can be pulled and cleaned.

[Zircon]

The continuing saga of the Argo Avenger fuel filter ...

The original cause of all this frustration ... increasing frustration, actually ... is the Argo was backfiring. Not too bad at first. Started earlier this winter. Changed the plugs and started using Lucas injector fluid in the gas and the problem went away. Temporarily. Two weeks ago it started again ... and got considerably worse the last trip I had it out. Really bad when I got back home and started taking it off the trailer.

I checked the filter on the left side of the fuel pump. It was dirty so I decided to replace it. Not available anymore! Argo wants it removed from the system and replaced with a new and improved fuel pickup tube. So I ordered it.

It finally arrived last night. Put it in this morning. Connected the fuel line to it and the other end to the fuel pump. Just like the Argo bulletin suggests. Now it turns over fine, but won't start!!! Popped the line off the entry side of the pump ... the side where I removed the little plastic filter ... no fuel! I'm pretty sure there's no air lock. A couple of years ago I took out the tank, cleaned it out, put everything back, turned the key on for awhile to let the pump do its work, then it started perfectly. No such luck this time.

Someone had the very same problem on here before ... but it wasn't totally resolved in the forum posts. So, do you think the fuel pump is gone and the reason it was backfiring is it was on its last legs at that time?

If I attach a couple of hoses to the pump ... should it pump gas from one container to another if I turn the key. I don't have access to a fuel pressure pump.

Thanks.

[msafi65]

Just remove output hose at pump and route into container. Cycle the pump a couple times and see if you get fuel. Pump only runs 2seconds each time but will pick up fuel fast if all is good. If you have fuel you will need to get pressure guage to test regulator. It sits between the pump and high pressure filter. Part # regulator is24 404 16-S Pump # is 24 393 52-S. fuel pressure must be 39psi +-3 lb. at 35 you get poor idle. I'm betting on the pump but try pinching off return line from regulator to raise pressure and see if it will run.