2015 Argo 650 HD 6x6 vs 2017 Argo Frontier 6x6 se

[sezk]

New to Argos, looking for opinions on which would be a better machine. I have found a left over 2015 650 HD 6x6 with Briggs and Stratton 23 hp engine with admiral transmission or 2017 Frontier se 6x6 23hp Kohler EFI with classic transmission. The 2017 Frontier is about $2000 cheaper.
Thanks, for your replies

[thorn]

Tell us what your intended use would be for either machine. Swamp/mud, snow, tracks?

[sezk]

Would be used during hunting season in mud and during winter getting to camp in snow with tracks.

[sezk]

Does anybody have any experience with either? Likes or dislikes, problems?

[mowbizz]

Does anybody have any experience with either? Likes or dislikes, problems?

Yes, lots of folks have all the Argo experience in the world right here!
That said, I have a 2016 Frontier Scout 6x6 with the “classic” trans.
The Scout model came with lots of extras which made it desirable to me and I am having a blast ice fishing with it right now. Haven’t tested it in any mud to speak of just some light mud on my woods trails. I will have a set of the rubber tracks soon to be able to conquer more difficult terrain like deeper snow. They say the Admiral trans is a lot easier to turn the machine with and someday I may upgrade to the 8x8 with the Admiral. For now no problems but I could do without those idler chains that seem to loosen fast. The tightness spec of 1/8” play sounds suspiciously tight to me. They’re running a bit looser now and no problems.

[Noel Woods]

I prefer the classic transmission over the Admiral. It just is a tough tranny without the bells and whistles and the awkward reversing power that you may or may not want.

[mowbizz]

I prefer the classic transmission over the Admiral. It just is a tough tranny without the bells and whistles and the awkward reversing power that you may or may not want.

I don’t have a problem with my classic tranny...I would like to try an admiral for comparison however.

[sezk]

What about the engine Briggs and Stratton 23hp or the Kohler which is 19hp not the 23hp that I said in my first post?

[mowbizz]

What about the engine Briggs and Stratton 23hp or the Kohler which is 19hp not the 23hp that I said in my first post?

Mine has the 23 hp Kohler and these engines get good reviews...I have only 11-12 hours on mine so far.
As far as the Briggs Vanguard, I had them in my landscaping business and they are a great motor too.
Probably one of the best Briggs ever. (My mechanic said this)
Sorry I can’t go into more detail as I am not a mechanic.

[bigfootbob]

I had a bigfoot with the classic trans for 17 years. I now have a frontier 6x6 with the admiral trans. I wouldnt go back. The ease of steering, no idler chains to adjust, less chain slap, constant torque to both sides.

[philipatmaxfour]

650 HD vs Frontier

I had a bigfoot with the classic trans for 17 years. I now have a frontier 6x6 with the admiral trans. I wouldnt go back. The ease of steering, no idler chains to adjust, less chain slap, constant torque to both sides.

and Argo no longer use Briggs engines just Kohler. Too bad about the H.P. drop. Maybe keep looking after you decide what you really want? Buyer remorse is not happy.

[beagle man]

I had a 2002 conquest 6x6 with the old style transmission and it worked good. The idler chain like any other chain will have quite a bit of stretch when new and you have to deal with it. I now have a 2016 750hdi 8x8 and I like the Admiral transmission much better.It doesn't drag down the power when turning and you will appreciate that when turning in deep mud or snow. I'm not saying the old transmission is bad because its not, but I think the admiral is better. Now for the 6x6 or the 8x8, you will get more usefulness out of the 8x8 vs 6x6. they fill up very fast and when you have an argo you get more friends. Don't sweat turning on the atv trails, the argo will still turn tighter than an atv.

[beagle man]

Sorry I forgot to mention load capacity in water, if you hunt ducks your hauling some gear and your buddy. Your first trip into the water you will be happy you got the 8x8. It don,t take much to overload a machine in the water and what is the price you put on your life and your gear when you leave the shore line.

[Benjie]

I have the Argo Frontier 8x8. It is good, I fore see transmission problems as it is hard to get it in reverse and it has popped out of reverse before. Other than that, I use it for swap riding and on the snow with tracks and it is ideal. more cargo space than a 6X6. The frontier has more than enough power. I hauled all my gear in 28 miles and hauled it out with a large caribou. I would like to get/make an extended fuel tank. I burned a full tank and 10 gallons of gas running 26 miles in and out and moderate usage on the 10 day hunt. (which is decent.

My thing is I want to get/mke mud flaps and mount a light bar on it. I dont know how to start a forum or chat with people on how to mount the light bar and what not. Can anyone help?

[mowbizz]

I have the Argo Frontier 8x8. It is good, I fore see transmission problems as it is hard to get it in reverse and it has popped out of reverse before. Other than that, I use it for swap riding and on the snow with tracks and it is ideal. more cargo space than a 6X6. The frontier has more than enough power. I hauled all my gear in 28 miles and hauled it out with a large caribou. I would like to get/make an extended fuel tank. I burned a full tank and 10 gallons of gas running 26 miles in and out and moderate usage on the 10 day hunt. (which is decent.

My thing is I want to get/mke mud flaps and mount a light bar on it. I dont know how to start a forum or chat with people on how to mount the light bar and what not. Can anyone help?

Just click on “POST NEW THREAD” and ask your questions! Good luck!