new frontier 8x8

[grit]

would the newer frontier 8x8 650/700's have any trouble spinning tracks?

[john swenson]

hey grit ...you may want to call ''adair argo '' and talk to them . they seem to know alot about those machines . also others here will chime in . j.b.

[mightymaxIV]

Hey Grit, I ran may Argo 8x8 Frontier 700cc Kohler with Adair Tracks and my 6x6 Frontier 700 Scout with Adair tracks and never had a single issue turning them in the most nasty mud conditions you can possibly imagine. I have several videos of these machine in awful mud at the Mud nationals, Big nasty and Busco beach. I had the frontier 6x6 at the April 2019 Busco ride and there were only three machines that could move down the worse trail in the park, Ralph's Mud Ox with Adair tracks, John's Argo 8x8 with Adair tracks and my 6x6 Scout with Adair tracks. My 6x6 would run about 20 MPH with those tracks. Both Frontiers actually turn with a lot less effort running Adair's because the tracks slide when you turn. You can ask John about rubber tracks, they are heavy, hard to turn and tough on bearings and chains. You can see some video of the Tracks in action in several places on this forum.

[Buzz]

a low-geared new frontier can run tracks, but some tracks are easier than others. I think keeping the 24” tires (that are also only 10” wide) makes the machine handle skid-turning easier. The smallest contact patch tracks will always skid turn easiest, especially in certain conditions. In other conditions, skid turning can be very difficult for many of the track styles (another discussion). Also (my opinion)-top speed with tracks is a mute point. You have a 1000-1500 lb machine (some can be much heavier) with a small engine in comparison. Performance matters most in the 0-to-“maybe”10 mph zone. That is where tou will suceed or fail. Climbing, hauling, ect. Encounter any significant load and the machine’s CVT will do its job: gear the machine down to maximize engine-to-transmission ratio so the machine can continue moving forward (although at a slower speed). Sacrificing top end for better performance 99% of the time always wins. But that is a discussion that requires comparing different styles and name-dropping. As an Alaska guy, I don’t want to get in a battle with the ATV park mob.

[mightymaxIV]

Here are a couple of videos that show my 8x8 and 6x6 frontiers in action, in the second video you can watch me and my brother following the Mud Ox through some really difficult conditions

[mightymaxIV]

One more of My Frontier at Hog Waller in Florida

[grit]

Thanks for all the reply’s . I’m
Looking at picking up a new frontier 650/700 8x8 for hunting in muddy conditions occasionally and in mountains mostly . Would like to use it in moderate snow in winter to get family out as well. . Picked up a used 6x6 a cpl years ago but it was a bit small .. and has a fair amount of issues . So want new hoping with proper maintanence it will be reliable for those long trips