Adair tracks in snow

[Mtgladiator]

I bought some Adair tracks for my Aurora to use in the mud. I also ride the snowmobile trails in the winter so I purchased the snow kit. I have to say I am disappointed in the performance. I have owned a 2010 avenger with the rubber track kit, I had an rzr last year with tracks and had no issues anywhere. Yesterday I was riding the power lines and there are some long fairly steep hills that I couldn’t even get half way up. I had to turn around. These are the same trails I have taken with both other vehicles and never even slipped the tracks.

[Mtgladiator]

I bought the tracks to access the river part of the lake we live on. It is loaded with thick lily pads and soup like muck that you will sink to your waste in if you got out. With tires last year I didn’t even get started in it and sunk and got stuck. So if the tracks don’t really work in that I will trade them for the rubber tracks.

[mightymaxIV]

Did your winter tracks kit have the ice cleats installed?

[Mtgladiator]

I got the stainless ones for it. He said they were back ordered for the galvanized ones that are serrated and a little taller. These are u channel stainless steel ones

[mightymaxIV]

I got the stainless ones for it. He said they were back ordered for the galvanized ones that are serrated and a little taller. These are u channel stainless steel ones

Let us know what happens when you get the serrated cleats on your machine.

[Grizzly10]

This is disappointing to hear. I’m leaning towards the Adair tracks, but real world feedback is what counts in my book. The RZR has more clearance, that may be the issue. Damn, wish the Adair’s went good in snow. Looking for a balance, swimming, traction, somewhat ease on drivetrain.

[Mtgladiator]

I guess I should clarify a little. The Adair tracks are fine in the snow, but when it’s icy they just slip. Going up the hard packed trails they will spin and can’t grip.

[Grizzly10]

Ice is a whole nuther ball game. On hard packed snow it seems they would go good I would �� think. I see on their website they have ice cleat options. Like I said before, it seems to me the Beaver Dam tracks solve all the problems. I have the 600 which I don’t know if the machine can handle these tracks, I’m in a tug of war with ideas and choices, I’m sure you guys understand. Lol. The Adair’s just by looking at them and understanding their makeup of plastic, seems easier on drivetrain and better for all season use. It’s a struggle. Both aren’t cheap. I just want to make the right choice. The forum is good to weigh and measure opinions then form an idea on what is best suited for what your trying to achieve. I guess their is really no right or wrong choice at end of day. Appreciate the feedback. That’s what this is all about.

[mightymaxIV]

My Argo will never see ice or snow but I was considering installing a set of ice cleats on my machine for swamp conditions. I saw a set of them installed on Foxvalley's machine at the mud nations and that Argo couldn't be stopped by any thing. They are of no use in pudding mud or wet mud but when you are in the swamp there are any number of fallen trees, roots, tree stumps and the dreaded cypress knees under the water. I am wondering if they would make a difference under these conditions.

I do have some reservations, other forum members have said they are very aggressive and will tear the hell out of concrete, yards and every thing else they come in contact with. I am also concerned about turning, one of the things I like about Adair's is the way they slide in mud, grass, or dry surfaces making the turning a lot easier on the machine.

I am sure those aggressive cleats would make turning on tight trails a lot more difficult.

I would love to have some feed back from anyone who has used them outside of snow and ice conditions. I see they are available for an 8x8 by any number of sources. I would love some feed back.

https://www.argoadventure.com/825-21--ACC-ICE-CLEAT--8X8-RUBBER-TRACK_p_11412.html

[Mtgladiator]

Went out to test using a boat anchor as a land anchor. Again bumped into the Adair nemesis, ice. The ice was open in this spot so I tried crossing it. The mud is like thick soup here. Definitely couldn’t walk in it. Good news is the Argo could easily move back and forth but was unable to climb up onto the ice. I tried the anchor and it would have worked had I not had a wall of ice to climb out of. Luckily someone went by on snowmobiles and went and found a guy with an atv and winch. Was so close to being able to back out on my own and needed a little pull.

[AdrenalineJunky]

Does anyone have an opinion regarding the Adair versus argo rubber track for swamp and marsh treading ? Ty

[Buzz]

Previous post:
“I am also concerned about turning, one of the things I like about Adair's is the way they slide in mud, grass, or dry surfaces making the turning a lot easier on the machine.
I am sure those aggressive cleats would make turning on tight trails a lot more difficult.”




1) more track (belt) width, increased vertical surface area, and max clean out area between belts is what makes any track go well in the really soft stuff.
I would caution against using aggressive ice cleats (in spring/summer/fall conditions) on any track whose guides can move (ex: factory rubber tracks or Adair tracks). If you do, it will make turning very difficult, and you are much more likely to drive out of the track (because it doesn’t want to move) and/or break tire guides or shear the screw that holds the guide clamped to the main grouser tread. As they say, you’re only as strong as your weakest link.

[mightymaxIV]

The Adairs will outperform the rubber Argp tracks in swamp and mud period . The Adairs swm better than the rubber tracks, they clean out better, turn a lot easier, they are easier on your chains and bearings. Etc. The rubber tracks are great in snow but for swamp and marsh the Adairs work great

[Mtgladiator]

Quick update. The snow is gone, so I went back to the spot where I went last year with tires. Very thick deep mud hole. With the tires I tried 3 times to get through, each time stopping dead and couldn’t go forward or backwards. Adair tracks walked right through without even spinning a track. So far in mid they are impressive. Night and day compared to tires.

[mightymaxIV]

Quick update. The snow is gone, so I went back to the spot where I went last year with tires. Very thick deep mud hole. With the tires I tried 3 times to get through, each time stopping dead and couldn’t go forward or backwards. Adair tracks walked right through without even spinning a track. So far in mid they are impressive. Night and day compared to tires.

I would guess you gain 70% mobility with Adair's over tires. Even when you think your stuck it only takes a little rocking or waiting until the machine settles in the mud to get it moving again. I watched my son spinning the tracks like crazy in a mud hole. I shouted "Derek your not stuck, let the machine settle in the mud and ease on the gas". Sure enough he pulled right our of the hole without issue.