Argo frontier 700 or aurora 850

[Payeur600]

Hi im looking at buying a new argo to replace my older magnum but im not sure in between the frontier 700 8x8 or the aurora 850 8x8 i will be using it 4 season and to plow snow im not sure between rubber tracks or channel tracks would the 23hp efi be maxed out all the time compared to the 33 with the admiral? Also im new here hello everyone

[Noel Woods]

They do have lower geared transmission packages available for multiple machines. If you plow and operate with tracks that would be something to consider.
I've always thought the more power the better, but that will add cost. If you purchase new you can always negotiate for the best deal. The 2022s should be out soon so a 2021 might be found with a discount.

Welcome to the site.

[Grizzly10]

Hi torque transmission is way to go I think. Also just for thought, check out Mud ox vengeance. I know it’s not model you mentioned but similarly priced as aurora. Fun to look.

[mightymaxIV]

The 700 Frontier is nice because it is capable and simple, both machines will work nicely for what you want to do but that Aurora is surely a very nice power house. Maintenance is simpler on the frontier and that is a consideration. The rubber tracks are excellent in snow but in other conditions they are hard on chains and bearings. You will have to ask the channel tracks folks about those tracks in snow but I am sure if you used ice cleats they would get the job done for what ever you wanted to do.

[Payeur600]

Yes but it does not show on the website the speed for the lower geared transmission i still want a bit of speed cause im gonna run tires a lot to?

[Payeur600]

I know where i can buy 15 inch rubber tracks and i heared they are still capable in deep snow mayber those would turn better?

[mightymaxIV]

The Argo web site shows the top speed of the 2022 Frontier 700 as 16 mph and does not specify a different speed, so I strongly suspect they are only offering the machine with the old 3.3 low range transmission, the 800 Aurora with the the water cooled Kawasaki engine also shows a top speed of 16 mph so I suspect it to is only available with the HT or lower geared transmission. Leads me to suspect that the new Argo clutching system has a lot to do with lower gear ratios in their machines. That being said I see the 700 6x6 still shows a top speed of 22 mph. Hummmmmm?

[Buzz]

all flat rubber tracks will be hard to turn, even 15” wide ones which I have run extensively. The most important thing with any track (especially flat tracks) is the transmission gear ratio. More engine power is nice, but simple mechanical advantage always wins, even with lower hp machines. Go with your budget, but insist on high torque (low geared 3.3 classic transmission or 8.1 admiral). So far, from 1st hand experience and also from others’ direct reports: Avoid the 2022s as currently set up from the factory. High torque ratios appear to have been ***eliminated*** (GENIUS), and the new clutches do NOT perform as adequately and in leu of the HT tranny ratios. Weak on the low end, hot/smelly belts, and too much rolling speed even if you do get heavy/rpm into the throttle to try to make the clutches do their job. Low end is pitiful and made worse by rubber tracks. I would strongly advise finding a 2021 in either transmission model that has high-torque gears. Night and day difference (for the better) compared to the 2022s unless all you plan to do is run down the road to check the mail. Real bummer but true, somebody goofed. Mmmmhmmmm, book smarts alright. Unbelievable and super bugging for a machine built to go through the bush and do work.

[Noel Woods]

Wow Buzz, that is interesting news about the elimination of the low geared transmissions. I don't know what the folks at Argo were thinking, but they had better take another look at this decision as it's counter to the direction they should have gone.

[plott hound]

looks like argo is targeting the trail riders for sales.

[AcezHi]

looks like argo is targeting the trail riders for sales.

I would say try it on a trail before you buy.
I have a 2020 Aurora 850 and there is not a single good way for a passenger to hang on to anything.
My wife hates riding on trails in this, so now used for only ice fishing.
It is way rougher and jerkier than an ATV (We had a 2016 Pioneer 700).
We took out trail riding once and constantly had to move out of the way of SXS ATVs as they were always up our butt on the trails.

Our trail riding was with the tracks off, but still like a slug for speed IMO.

I know I should love it, but just have a hard time recommending to others that want it for trail riding. Especially for close to$30K

Just my opinion.

[Bennett20200]

Hi im looking at buying a new argo to replace my older magnum but im not sure in between the frontier 700 8x8 or the aurora 850 8x8 i will be using it 4 season and to plow snow im not sure between rubber tracks or channel tracks would the 23hp efi be maxed out all the time compared to the 33 with the admiral? Also im new here hello everyone

*Upgrade* from a magnum? There is no upgrade to the magnum, they're the pinnacle of Argo engineering At least, that's what I tell myself as I plod along on my '88 Magnum.

Jokes aside, I also use a 23HP Avenger and with rubber tracks from time to time and it has no issues with power. Like others said, make absolutely sure to get the lower geared/higher torque transmission. Keep in mind that if you plan on using channel tracks, they will be very hard on a paved asphalt driveway if you are ploughing with them. Maybe someone who has more experience with them on pavement can confirm or correct me on that though.

[Payeur600]

Yes i would think the same but i dont plow on pavement

[Payeur600]

Looks like it because the choice was there on the website before and now its gone maybe they made a in between ?

[22savage]

all flat rubber tracks will be hard to turn, even 15” wide ones which I have run extensively. The most important thing with any track (especially flat tracks) is the transmission gear ratio. More engine power is nice, but simple mechanical advantage always wins, even with lower hp machines. Go with your budget, but insist on high torque (low geared 3.3 classic transmission or 8.1 admiral). So far, from 1st hand experience and also from others’ direct reports: Avoid the 2022s as currently set up from the factory. High torque ratios appear to have been ***eliminated*** (GENIUS), and the new clutches do NOT perform as adequately and in leu of the HT tranny ratios. Weak on the low end, hot/smelly belts, and too much rolling speed even if you do get heavy/rpm into the throttle to try to make the clutches do their job. Low end is pitiful and made worse by rubber tracks. I would strongly advise finding a 2021 in either transmission model that has high-torque gears. Night and day difference (for the better) compared to the 2022s unless all you plan to do is run down the road to check the mail. Real bummer but true, somebody goofed. Mmmmhmmmm, book smarts alright. Unbelievable and super bugging for a machine built to go through the bush and do work.

Is there a way to install HT gears in a new 2022? Askimg cause i just bought one and am bummed to hear that. Plan on buyi g a set of tracks here right away.