Ultimate argo.... Give me your two cents....

[spookum]

If your looking for a opinion,it probably would stand up it was the earlier trans back in the seventy,s that gave me the most trouble their input shaft gears were thinner because they put more teeth on it argo then changed to less teeth and they were all thicker,at that time I was running two strokes,in the early eighty,s I had built a modified 6 wheeler with a powerful two stroke in it I was young and beat this machine to death,I broke axles,rims,tires,holed the body numerous times,exploded a primary clutch,melted pistons you name it and never broke the tranny.But I made sure that I changed oil in the trans and never ground gears or shifted it roughly,come to think about it the trans was the only thing I took care with on that machine.N.C.T

Sweet! i will keep on the look out for a newer trans!! It would be a good idea i think! If i can find one in any shape, i can always rebuild the post 88 trans and have somehting cool. I was thinking about making a big enough "hood" for the machine that i can fully acess the engine compatment any way. Seems like im always hanging up side down reaching under the battery box for some dumb reason...

[eightwheeler]

I think you guys are forgetting that Argo never ever built an 8x8 with a 2 stroke, the 2 strokes were just fine in the 6x6's because of the less weight and less traction of the machine, adding 300lbs and 2 more wheels might put a little more strain on the trans.........but what do i know

[North Country Tough]

I think you guys are forgetting that Argo never ever built an 8x8 with a 2 stroke, the 2 strokes were just fine in the 6x6's because of the less weight and less traction of the machine, adding 300lbs and 2 more wheels might put a little more strain on the trans.........but what do i know

Not so, they produced two stroke 400 and 440cc 8X8 latter sixty's early seventy,s and a limited build sometime in the early eighty's that was to clear some shelfs of two stroke stuff,when I found out they were doing that I placed a order but they sold what they had built and I didnt get one.N.C.T

[North Country Tough]

Sweet! i will keep on the look out for a newer trans!! It would be a good idea i think! If i can find one in any shape, i can always rebuild the post 88 trans and have somehting cool. I was thinking about making a big enough "hood" for the machine that i can fully acess the engine compatment any way. Seems like im always hanging up side down reaching under the battery box for some dumb reason...

Go for it Spookum never let fear of the unknown get to you,dream up what you want and build it. N.C.T

[spookum]

I think i can get HDI argo axels and alumanum bearing carires for the front end to help carry the wight for about 700. Figure another 500 or so for the engine. i also have pinned down what year of GEO i need. Probbably a 92 to a 96 would be ideal. Also, a manual trans. In 96 they went to the OBD II system and it is very difffacult to bypass the catalitic sensor im told! I had a fair amount of cashola built up, but i ran across a 156 2001 RMK 800 with a 2003 VES 800 in it. I was too dumb to say "no". SO off to sell the 99 rmk, a 95 600 polaris tripple indy and a 78 440 fan cooled panther.... and thanks for the "dream big" speach. I know that the only engine that is going to make me happy is something with EFI and an externial altinator to run all the gadgets. Lets be real, from what i can tell tracks MUNCH power. I want to go huntin back in 50 miles plus, and to get to run at 10 to 15 MPH in waste deep snow, i need more power. I think i can build a tracked argo for under 5K that will wallk all over a brand new HDI every day, all day... but we will see!

[spookum]

I think you guys are forgetting that Argo never ever built an 8x8 with a 2 stroke, the 2 strokes were just fine in the 6x6's because of the less weight and less traction of the machine, adding 300lbs and 2 more wheels might put a little more strain on the trans.........but what do i know

at a certian point i am just going to have to say to heck with it, all parts that do not stand up to the geo metro engine well... they will just have to be upgraded as they break

[North Country Tough]

at a certian point i am just going to have to say to heck with it, all parts that do not stand up to the geo metro engine well... they will just have to be upgraded as they break

As far as tracks chewing up power,you bet they do,It wasn't till I got the Avenger and got away from the lawnmower engine powered units that I seen what the extra H.P was worth,money was not the issue for me it was time I had none,now I have time just not quite ready to tear apart the Avenger just yet its to new,but the day is coming I have started looking for the new power unit and it will come from Suzuki,my ultimate Argo will have the same engine as my T 660 turbo touring Arctic Cat,its a three holer four stroke turbo charged at 110 ish H.P.N.C.T

[nlrocks]

HI all,
I've been wanted to buy an Argo for years. The time has come so I'm doing some research as to what to buy and where. I was advised the best machine is 750Hdi 8x8. From research of price and quality, I'm not sure it is..... any input would be great.

[North Country Tough]

nlrocks welcome loads of info on the machine you are looking at in earlier posts,there were some teething problems with the Admiral transmission,Iam not 100% sure they are all solved yet,a fellow on this site that goes by the name of Rock Doctor is a good source of info on this issue he works in a place where he gets to see first hand and these machines see max work load,other than that great machines these Avengers Iam sure you would be pleased.N.C.T

[spookum]

As far as tracks chewing up power,you bet they do,It wasn't till I got the Avenger and got away from the lawnmower engine powered units that I seen what the extra H.P was worth,money was not the issue for me it was time I had none,now I have time just not quite ready to tear apart the Avenger just yet its to new,but the day is coming I have started looking for the new power unit and it will come from Suzuki,my ultimate Argo will have the same engine as my T 660 turbo touring Arctic Cat,its a three holer four stroke turbo charged at 110 ish H.P.N.C.T

I would be curious to know what that power band looks like. My buddy tried to sell me a running HYabasa engine, (came with a serously smashed croch rockeket) and i had to say no thanks. I need something that is mild mannered. I dont want to have pinging issues, or loaded up under 1500 RPM. It would be SO COOL not to have the primary clutch engauge till 4000 RPM (like on my RMK) but my 6 wheeled argo does that already with the 440 in it ( i got a new driven clutch for it out of a z-440 ski doo... ill let you know how that works out). I actualy have a buddy that has a 4 stroke appex and i would kill people to get one to plant the engine in the argo!!! but price for the engine and price for parts wise???? back to the good old geo metro. I found some folk that were "sport tuning" them on the internet. It is like only 500 dollars for the nuzo heads and cam.... up grade some day? you know it! Turns out turboing them (NOT ME TURBOS DO NOT PLAY WELL WITH DUST AT ALL) isnt too bad either.

NCT: time you learned about my life sottry (probbably wrong thread but what the heck) i learned how to drive a 2.5 hp go kart at age 6 or 7. upgraded to 10 hp when i was 11 (spent all summer mowing grass). Built a 5 HP 21 speed chromolly electric go-kart when i was 16. Solicited 20K from local buisness to put it together. Taught myself to TIG weld and to lay up fiber glass... not to mention 24 V DC electronics and the chemistry behind car batteries (turns out if you add the right chemicals and heat them right they will run circles around conventional batteries... but ONLY once!)

I learned to drive my dads 78 ford bronco when i was 13 or so in the woods. I got my 78 ford bronco when i was 17. I could tell you ALL the mods, but this isnt eh place but he short of it is: I put 4.56 gears in it, detoit locker in the rear and ARB in the front. Chromoly axels all the way through, up graded NP 205 t-case and upgraded c-6 x-mission. 460 implanted. Running 35s and i could easily step up to 38s.

How ever, i have learned that i currently can not afford parts for it. I have to get wood to heat the house and get to colege in it. I also figured out that living in alaska, it wont do what i need it to do. This is why i chose argo. It isnt to expensive to fix on, and it will float in the muskeg or bottomless swamps up here. With tracks, it will get me around in warm style in the winter. All around, it is just cheaper to operate an argo! Now i find that it is time to build one that will work in all seasons to the maximum of it and my abillity!

As soon as i get my 99 RMK tuned up, the 78 panther and the 96 indy tripple good to go ill sell them and start on this project. HDi axels in the front, Sprint engine, upgraded frame and body combination. I think i want to tie the frame, body and roll over protection system all together. I think this will help with the frame taking the abuse from the Sprint engine if i can distribute the load more evenly through out the machine!

[spookum]

HI all,
I've been wanted to buy an Argo for years. The time has come so I'm doing some research as to what to buy and where. I was advised the best machine is 750Hdi 8x8. From research of price and quality, I'm not sure it is..... any input would be great.

Best of luck to you buddy! try and get a test ride in the max, and in the argos. They vary as much as the possible aplications!!!! Too many people go out and buy a floating ATV and knowing nothing get stuck in some nasty places. Myself, even as mechanicaly inclined as i am, had one break a bearing and try to machine an axel shaft in half way back in the sticks! To cover all your bases, n omatter what you buy (except for brand spanking new) take it to a certified dealer fo them to check it out. I just hate it to see when somone buys a "good deal" and spends too much money on fixing chains, bearings and axesl. Again you are on the rite path, just be 100% sure of what you are buying!!!!

[North Country Tough]

Spookum the 660 Cat motor is from the suzuki car division,its 660 cc and w/o turbo produces 50 ish hp,they then turboed it for more power for their two up sled and pumped in around 20 psi and doubled the horsepower,that said it is a very mild powerband this is not some turbo nightmare powerhouse,we cruise our sled all day at slow trail speeds two up and average twenty mpg.The big reason Iam on the hunt for a complete sled thats takin a hit is everything I need will be there wiring to primary and secondary with all kinds of parts off the shelf,no special stuff to build other than the mount in hardware,fuel injected,turbo, already primary clutch with all kinds of tuning components available,built by suzuki,whats to hate.N.C.T

[smog]

My buddy tried to sell me a running HYabasa engine, (came with a serously smashed croch rockeket) and i had to say no thanks.

get that Hayabusa engine and do something fun :

[North Country Tough]

I cant even imagine what you would build out of that Smog,but it would be fun.N.C.T

[spookum]

way cool smog! not for my swamp argo, but some day it would be fun to take one down to the track and do a 10 second quartert mile. Bet people would scream!