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  • HDI Bearing/Brake Fail

    I got a message that my Buddy was broke down on the trail, and wanted some help, so Off I went. He was about 8kms from his truck, which actually was not a bad thing as I was about 16kms from his truck (He was headed toward me, lol). Anyway, the message was brief..... "Possible Front Bearing Fail, Lots of Grinding and Crunching"

    On the way to find him, we (A friend and myself) bumped into the "Broke Down Machine", he was coming towards us. We stopped to get the story. It seems that the machine started making terrible noises, and like mentioned a Bearing was suspected. My buddy winched the front of the machine up into a tree and checked for play in the front bearing......... Nothing. He lowered the machine and backed it up.........Nothing. He started on down the trail towards us.........Nothing.
    I was looking down the tires on the Drivers side and noticed that the second tire back didn't look right. Buddy said "Oh that ones fine, I just bent the Axle a little bit. I'm waiting for the new one now" He said there had been no noise or issues since he got moving again. We knew something was wrong, but he was fully loaded and wanted to limp the machine to his cabin where we could unload and have a closer look. Off we went.... My friend that was traveling with me leand over and said " That bearing on the second axle is *&^%ed", I said, "I know"
    Anyway, we made it and unloaded the HDI.
    Now, before I go any further, I have to say that normally this guy is pretty good, and I think he takes pretty good care of his machines, but..........
    He insisted that he checked/greased all his bearings the day before this trip.
    We found that all 4 of his center outer bearings and one Front were shot, the second from the front on the drivers side was ................ Gone ( so thats how the water was getting in, lol.
    I only had one spare, and he only had one, so we changed the 2 worst ones and drove it out like that.
    I'm wondering if having the 4 center axles an inch lower than the front and rear axles played a part in this?
    Here are a few pics:








    During this jurney, it was noticed that something didn't look right with the machines Hand Brakes

    Left Side


    Right Side, better but still not good


    So we pulled the Left one apart








    We were told that the brakes were working fine, and in fact were rarely used
    These brakes are operated by a single piston operatng on one pad. I found it interesting that the pad without a piston pushing on it showed the most wear (On both brakes)
    I'm pretty sure this machine has less than 100hrs on it.


    Anothr day at the office

    RD

  • #2
    What the what? Now that is weird. Gotta be more to it than just bearing failure, I converted the bearings on my avenger. Hopefully they wear better than that!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by DerekF View Post
      What the what? Now that is weird. Gotta be more to it than just bearing failure, I converted the bearings on my avenger. Hopefully they wear better than that!
      I agree...........
      So far, I've had good luck with my HDI Bearing Upgrade to my machine.

      RD

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      • #4
        Hey Doc,
        Could it be a weight issue?Seems you guys have a bigger load in your argos than I can get in my 3/4 ton! lol. Seems like an alfull lot of brake wear,granted your units are working hard all the time,but my hdi has 96 hours and less than half the brake wear. Also, my bearings are like new. Weird.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by foxvalley View Post
          Hey Doc,
          Could it be a weight issue?Seems you guys have a bigger load in your argos than I can get in my 3/4 ton! lol. Seems like an alfull lot of brake wear,granted your units are working hard all the time,but my hdi has 96 hours and less than half the brake wear. Also, my bearings are like new. Weird.
          That's a valid point, and a topic that we've often discussed.
          I don't have the specs on these bearings, but suspect that we are operating within their load rating, but maybe not. A typical load in that machine is probably pushing the 1000# mark. Contamination could be a large factor as well, the grit here is very fine and with the heavy loads and constant twisting........... Lots of time in soupy, gritty muck....
          I think there are a number of factors.

          RD

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          • #6
            I appreciate you sharing these experiences with photos for the rest of us out here. Makes it a lot easier to diagnose and maintain after seeing it first!

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