New guy , new to 6x6's....

[Ceejus]

i'm pretty sure my Dad still has the mufflers, ignition and everything with those engines he has.
what sort of fuel pump system do these things have? i know on the airplanes it was just a gravity feed deal with the fuel tank sitting on top of the main keel.

[hydromike]

I had a tank on my keel once... hurt like crazy....

Your two stroke will use a vacuum pulse pump. It uses the vacuum pulse from the engine's crankcase to move a diphragm style pump, which pumps the gas up to the carburetor(s). Mikuni makes a great one. Come to think of it, who else makes vacuum pulse pumps? I should start a new thread...

~m

[Ceejus]

Rework exhaust?
Electric starter?

Rip the darn ring gear off and throw a big fat pipe on that animal and we'll bend up a cage for it. We'll go racin'....

~m

(in all seriousness, I still have a starter [and bracket, I think?] from a ULII-02 that'd more than likely bolt right up. Maybe even the ring gear, but that's likely the same from the JLO days... I'll check the warehouse tonight....)

sweet!
the UL's my Dad has are both pull start. i have no problems leaving them pull start if need be....

[Ceejus]

The only thing you might want to do is update the wheels and tires to modern style ones and just keep the balloon tires stored in your garage.

what type of wheels will bolt onto these things? what is the bolt patters? are there adapters? is there a size that i should try to stick with? i did see the thread that mentioned the cosmetic blems from TSL. sorry for all the questions!

[LarryW]

You can make adapters. There is a template for them on the site.
3-4lug adapter
3-5lug adapter

You cant run bigger then a 22" tire. Some 22" tires get really close. It also depends on how wide the rim is and the tire. Skinny rims make the tires taller. Tire size has no quality control it seems and even the same brands will vary. I would look at what tire you want. Find out what size rim and go from there. If money is an issue I get a way with running golf cart style rims but you cant run super low psi. But they are skinner usually and that helps hold the bead on and plus make tire taller. If you want a serious machine get the Matt O. beadlock rims.

[Ceejus]

supposed to go get it tomorrow (Monday). any idea what is too much to pay for it?
it does not currently run but has good compression. i have access to a free Cuyuna ULII-02, so the issue of it not running really isn't much of an issue.
looks like it's all there, gauges and all.

[jpswift1]

supposed to go get it tomorrow (Monday). any idea what is too much to pay for it?
it does not currently run but has good compression. i have access to a free Cuyuna ULII-02, so the issue of it not running really isn't much of an issue.
looks like it's all there, gauges and all.

I'd offer him $400-$500 and see what he says.

[Ceejus]

I'd offer him $400-$500 and see what he says.

well, that should be easy. he's asking $500. hahaha! i didn't mention that, because i wanted to see what you guys said. i'm going to try to get it for less anyway. you never know until you ask!

[jpswift1]

well, that should be easy. he's asking $500. hahaha! i didn't mention that, because i wanted to see what you guys said. i'm going to try to get it for less anyway. you never know until you ask!

Thfats right. If you can get it for $300-$400 that would be good deal for sure.

[Ceejus]

thanks for all the great info! i'm sure i'll be asking more questions as i tear into this thing.

[jpswift1]

We're all here to help. Post lots of pics.....we love watching the progress on vintage AATV restorations!

[Ceejus]

picked it up yesterday and discovered that i need a bigger trailer! hahaha! it techically "fits" on my trailer, but it has to sit on the trailer rails rather than on the actual floor of the trailer.

it's a little rougher than what it looked like in the pics, but i got the guy to come down to 400 bucks. i'll try to get some pics up on here tonight or tomorrow for you guys to check out.

2 of the 6 tires actually hold air. the others are shot and torn open. engine and trans look decent and fairly clean compared to the rest of the buggy. the engine cover is busted up back by the hinge (which i assume is probably fairly common for these things.) the headlights look like someone shot them with a bb gun.

one thing i was wondering, are there supposed to be 2 probably 3/4" or 1" holes on the lower rear of the body? they are on the back panel all the way at the bottom maybe a foot or so apart from each other. they look very uniform like they are supposed to be there, but i couldn't help but think that holes would hinder the floating ability of this thing. should there be plugs in them? the body has a few holes and cracks here and there on top, but the lower body seems to be fine from what i can tell so far.

i think my first step is to try to get it running. once i get it to at least fire, i'll be shopping for wheels and tires, while i rip it completely apart. will this thing still float and go in the water with those TSL swamper ATV tires and steel wheels? i don't know how the extra weight of the tires and wheels would affect it.

anyway, i have a LOT of work ahead of me while i try to keep up with the house, yard, wife, daughter, 2 motorcycle builds and a car project that is currently on the back burner......ugh.....

[jpswift1]

Glad to hear that you got it! The two holes in the back of the machine are the drain plugs. The machine will still float fine with 22" Super Swamper TSL ATV tires, but those tires will not really propel it through the water very well because of their tread design. They're great in the mud though. When you go to switch the wheels and tires over to modern ATV tires and wheels, you'll need to make a set of adapter plates. Mike made a template for everyone to use, so it should make it easy to do. Post some pics if you get a chance, we'd love to see them.

http://www.6x6world.com/forums/content/section/302-three-lug-five-adapter.html

http://www.6x6world.com/forums/content/section/301-three-four-lug-adapter.html

[Ceejus]

how thick of material should i make the adapters out of?

also, what kind of offset should i be looking for when i'm looking for wheels?

The machine will still float fine with 22" Super Swamper TSL ATV tires, but those tires will not really propel it through the water very well because of their tread design. They're great in the mud though.

what tires would you suggest, that would propel it through the water best, besides the original ones?

[hydromike]

People are finicky about tires. Some people love one kind, and the next will absolutely hate it. I'll forego the goods and bads about each tire and just answer your question from my experience with a few different tires on an Attex, and what swims well. I'll leave the traction argument for later.

*Goodyear Runamuks swim extremely well on a 6x6 Attex
*26" Goodyear Rawhide IIIs swim extremely well on an Attex 8x8, but 22" Rawhide IIIs don't do squat on my particular 6x6. Weird, I know.
(With some body mods, you CAN fit a 26" Rawhide III on an Attex. Seen it done once. )
*Cheng Shin Lumberjacks tend to swim forward with V's pointing backward, and with the transmission in reverse. Werid, I know.
*Nankang Chevrons move an Attex 6x6 pretty nicely through the water the normal way. (V's point backward).

As far as suggesting a tire, the Rawhide III is the most durable out of all the above, and has the best traction. Just bring a paddle. Or find an Attex Tank Trainer and build it around a set of 8 Rawhides....

~m