registration and insurance in Ontario

[rosed]

I bought my Argo brand new in 2005, and only decided to plate it this year after a run in with OPP on the lake, so went to my licensing office with the original bill of sale, and they told me to get a NVIS (new vehicle imformation statement) from Argo. so I called up Argo, and they were very helpful, and sent it out right away, howerver its a duplicate because the originals are sent out with the machine whitch i never received, and the MOT will not accept a duplicate!! GRRRRR! the last time i tried to insure it in 05 i also had trouble because Argo was not recognized as an ORV or ATV, so that's my other mission this week, anyone from ontario gone through this?

[Swamper]

Not yet, but I think I will have to go that route soon enough. I have been kucky so far as I run mine on a friends private prperty. I also would like to take it up north, but that is where I am sure I will run into the problem of no plate either with the OPP or the MNR. I didn't buy new, mine is an 83 and have the bill of sale, but it looks like it will be frustrating. Fortunaletly though I have a family member who owns a licencing office and I hope will give me all the info before I go through the steps. Good luck and let us know how it works out for you.
Cheers,
Al

[ontario026]

There is a big difference in MTO offices... Some are good, some are bad.... try a different MTO office, some seem to make everything a P.I.T.A..... I had a customer bring me in a NVIS that I had given them saying that it wasn't what the MTO wanted... Turned out that the first line on the top of the Argo NVIS reads "Manufacturer's statement of Origin" then Below in a little bit smaller text it read "New Vehicle Information Statement" They actually told the customer that they needed a NVIS, not a Manufacturer's statement of origin and sent the customer away..... C'mon open your eyes, it's the same damn thing!!!...

Try a different MTO office, or else photoshop the NVIS and remove the duplicate stamp! LOL
Matthew

[Rumbles]

I showed up at the local MTO with a manufacturer's statement of origin from Argo and they were not sure what to do so they made a call to a head office of some kind and they ok'd it. I had an old ATV plate with me and they transferred it to the Argo. My insurance company had no problem insuring it and it is comparable in price to a ATV.

[rosed]

Ok, went back this morning with the Duplicate NVIS form, and a letter from my dealer stating i was the original owner, (even though i showed them my original bill of sale last week)'
they called their head office, made me sign a piece of paper stating i necer received my original NVIS, and FINALLY got my plate!!

Matthew, you are so right about different MTO offices, my neighbor lives in Niagara, went to his MTO this morning with just the duplicate NVIS that we received at the same time, he bought his machine used....in the states......they gave him his plate ,no problem!!

so my next step is insurance, can you guys tell me which insurance companys you use?

thanks,

Ed

[Robinhood02]

eh you guys gotta move out to AB with those toys , no tags , no ins , no mto , no nvis and we dont need permits to go camping or skidooing in the bush ,if you got a fishing licence your good to go ,not much gov BS out here , the wild wild west LOL

[garbie]

Does an argo qualify as a "slow moving vehicle" and only require the orange triangle bordered with red sign? Or is it a boat maybe? and need to have a pleasure craft license?

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/vehicle/smvs.shtml

[rosed]

classified as ORV (off road vehicle)

[treverds]

Does anyone know what laws apply here in the states?

[rosed]

ok, latest update............turned down so far by 3 insurance companies!! GRRRR!, my car insurance won't touch it, neither will my house/cottage ins. and i did and online quote with td can. trust, was all excited because argo actually popped up as an otion, called them today and they said it's a generic online software, but they won't insure Argo!!!

[argohunter]

Does anyone know what laws apply here in the states?

This is a generalized answer to your question. First of all you have to determine if your machine fits your own state's legal definition of an ATV, ORV or some other type vehicle classification. If it does, then you have to abide by the regulations set down by your state. Each state has it's own laws that govern registration and the use of ATVs and or ORVs within that state. The regulations can be very different from state to state. In some states an aatv is not considered an ATV or ORV and they cannot be registered or operated on public lands. Some states govern the use of an aatv on water, ice covered lakes and rivers etc. In some states an aatv is required to be registered as a watercraft if used on the water whether or not it is registered as anything else. If you are operating your machine in a state where you are a non-resident, you are governed by that state's regulations and laws.

Check with the regulatory agencies in your own state to see what laws govern the use of your machine. In many states the DNR regulates ATV use. Their use on Federal lands also varies depending upon what state the Federal lands are located in.

[countrycummins99]

geico will i believe as an atv but i think i want to insure mine as a boat that way if it sinks i still get the money full coverage for 4,000 was 170 a year on my max IV from geico i believe

[yellowargo]

I have my insurance through co operators. My 2008 Frontier is $220.00 for everything except on water, if it sinks, I'm sunk. But it covers fire, theft, personal liability, personal damage and passangers. Wish my car was that cheap.

I have it plated and have been asked for proof by the OPP and everything was GOOD...

[camoboy]

Reg.&ins.in ont.

My 2005 avenger was never reg. And with help from my local licensing office
i had a plate num.and was on my way minus the provincial sales tax due on the
private sale.insurance was not a problem either same company that insures my
house gave me coverage.if you have options such as a plow tracks or enclosure
i was told if my bill of sale had shown them seperately i would not have paid our
prov.sales tax on them.

[rosed]

yellowargo,
i have my house, cottage and boat with cooperators......but they won't do my Argo!! GRRR!