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  • Ok - what is the REAL LEGALITIES in regards to land/water use? - Need some input!

    Hey all,

    I have a 99' MAX II with an electric outboard motor, I live in New York on the coast.. I registered this Max as a boat & have all my stickers & numbers on the side.. I have a trailer with a launching permit so i am able to launch from a local marina ramp into the river which is almost always calm.. I used the Max this past weekend & came ashore at a small unmotorized craft launching beach on the bank of the river.. I was approached by 2 very irate hippys claiming that the 6x6 is ruining the ecosystem & is illegal to use along the waters edge.. Now as far as i know, the federal guideline for where "land" actually begins is the high tide mark.. Im operating in salt water.. I theoretically should be able to drive the Max along the entire coast if i stay at or below the high tide mark.. As i explained this to the hippys (whom waved me to come ashore to stall me so the cops could arrive), a cop came zipping in on a 911 call of someone with an ATV tearing up the marshlands.. Now my question is, as long as my wheels are in water below the high tide mark & i am registered as a boat, am i still legal in New York state? I do like to come ashore from time to time, albiet maybe the county park was not a good idea to land, but if i come up on a parcel of marshland, does it have to be posted as a preserve to advise me? there are no signs anywhere.. the Hippy insists the DEC can take the Max & give me $10,000 fines.. Now if i come ashore on unposted assumedly unprotected marshland?? - The fact that these 6x6's can traverse land to water & vice versa makes the current laws hard to interpret... The hippy said i cant ride along the waterline of the marshes either, well that is the high tide mark.. The cop told me i couldnt be in parklands with the machine & made me exit via water, now this i understand.. What are some folks input on this??, i am very curious as i do want to stay within the bounds of proper use to the best of my ability..

  • #2
    throw a few left handed cigarettes and some poo grown magical fungi at the hippies next time. They won't be so quick to dial 911, they'll be too busy grabbing the goodies and splitting before the cops get there themselves.
    l like to buy stuff and no I don't do payments!

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    • #3
      Hello,
      I live in Michigan and the rules are probably different. I can only enter and exit waterways on a boat launch.

      Im just curious how those hippies know so much on the laws concerning aatv's when its hard for us to find them? If you run into another problem I would just say firm on it. Say you did your research and unless they can prove you wrong that your going to keep enjoying your aatv.

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      • #4
        Actually they had no clue, they said "they don't allow these things", mostly likely referring to "Quads" or generic ATV's.. I can tell that they were having issues processing the fact this was not a buzzing little 4x4 atv, but there argument was mainly i cant even run the shoreline IN WATER.. I know its a little questionalble coming up on land.. but there are wetland areas which are not otherwise posted that i have come up on briefly.

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        • #5
          I think the laws the same every where. Its all good until you get caught

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          • #6
            I live in Mass. and I carry a high powered paintball gun for situations like these. Hippies hate being shot repeatedly with a paintball gun.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by vader8x8 View Post
              I live in Mass. and I carry a high powered paintball gun for situations like these. Hippies hate being shot repeatedly with a paintball gun.
              Ive heard hippies use the term mass hole before. They must have gave you a hard time in the past. That is not the peacfull way as your emotiocon indicates. I believe my way to be more peacefull. We should conduct furthet testing to see which is better though. I almost think spaying them with soapy water may be as affective as paintballs though. They really don't like to be clean.
              l like to buy stuff and no I don't do payments!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by amphibious drew View Post
                Ive heard hippies use the term mass hole before. They must have gave you a hard time in the past. That is not the peacfull way as your emotiocon indicates. I believe my way to be more peacefull. We should conduct furthet testing to see which is better though. I almost think spaying them with soapy water may be as affective as paintballs though. They really don't like to be clean.
                Funny you should mention Mass hole. The plate on my bike is MAHLE and thats what it stands for. I have no mercy for hippies and tree huggers. All the trail systems I spent building with various clubs over the years here are almost all bike/hiking paths now. They seem to wait until the trails are complete and then they cry foul and ban atv's. I ride mostly in Maine (the most atv friendly state in the northeast) bit I ride in Mass a lot also. I DON'T BOTHER RESTISTERING IT IN MASS. THERE IS NO LEGAL PLACE TO RIDE THEM. WHY GIVE THEM THE MONEY???!!! I'll take my chances. Funny story about hippies. I was riding my KTM and came to a river crossing and there was three of them crossing, jumping carefully from rock to rock to get across. I hit the river on one wheel at about 50mph and hit them with a pipeliner about 10 feet high. I stopped on the other side and I just couldn't stop laughing.

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                • #9
                  If i hunt out of a climbing stand am i a tree hugger? ha ha i think not!

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                  • #10
                    Climbing trees is also illegal in Mass.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 6 WHHEELS OR BUST View Post
                      If i hunt out of a climbing stand am i a tree hugger? ha ha i think not!
                      Oh, I have another one. I bet you would be hugging that tree when a black bear or wolf is after you! lol Thank god for non tree huggers who hunt and help control the population.

                      vader8x8, thats just crazy. Why? Whats up with the freedom thing?

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                      • #12
                        I don't know. You'll have to ask John Kerry or spend it all Duval. Rich liberals don't ride or hunt is my guess. By the way, black bears and wolves are also illegal here.

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                        • #13
                          Hey man i live in louisiana. I see dead deer, dead squirrels, dead rabbits , & dead ducks. Not by natural causes!

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                          • #14
                            Hey Larry do they teach spelling or reading in Michigan ? Hunt

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                            • #15
                              Come to Arkansas, we just shoot the tree huggers!!!!! Lol, just kidding....I do all my riding on private land, so I don't get harassed by anyone. Arkansas has millions of acres of public hunting and fishing land, since most people here like to hunt. I don't know about the ATV rules for the WMAs, but I do know that hunters get more pissed than tree huggers when you ride by and disturb their area lol...
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