A little swimming help?

[hydromike]

What tires did you go to?

I ended up getting a set of 22x11-8 Rawhide IIIs when they were still available. They're nice tires, but they still don't swim that fast on the Chief for whatever reason. We had it down in the big lake at Busco in Fall 2010, and it did OK. I still have hopes that they'll bring the tire back into production one day, whether Titan makes a copy or whomever.

[brushcutter]

I had 22" rawhide III's on my 950 and they didn't swim at all-at any speed- went to the 25"mudbugs and they did a little better, but neither one ever swam as fast as Boncrshrs seemed to with 25" vampires. If I had it to do again, I would get the vampires, hands down. They swam good on his and were good mud tires also. My opinion is that the tub design(bump) on Hustlers are highly detrimental to swimming, as far as I know most other machines have an "open" channeled bottom on them, and that allows for better flow. I have long believed that if you had 2 machines that were as identically setup as possible and each had the same tires, the open channel design would out swim the Hustler due to tub design alone. Hustlers are not known to be the fastest of swimmers so don't expect too much.

[ARGOJIM]

If your up for it it may help to just cut the knobby out of the tires leaving just the bars, could help those tires swim a little better just by disrupting less water( or moving more water,( bigger oar) ).

[ezryder]

May try that Jim. You're the 2nd person to tell me that.

[ezryder]

Ok so I guess the next logical question is how many Hustler 950 owners will check in here and let me know in your experience, what is the best swimming tire specifically for this machine?

[jpswift1]

This list should help..........

http://www.6x6world.com/forums/hustler-atvs/22861-hustler-roll-call.html

[ezryder]

Thanks jp. I'm now on "the list". Glad to know theres lots of Hustlers out there.
Still curious to know what experience the Hustler owners have with the best swimming tire. I've searched and read lots of threads, but not found one that covers swimming tires on Hustlers in particular, and 950's in particular. And as someone previously stated, swimming tires perform differently for different machines.

I hesitate to start another thread (don't wanna be a thread whore) with so much info already out there. I'll keep looking and learning. I'm sure there must be info I haven't seen yet.

[ezryder]

I'm not expecting a lot, just want to be able to move in direction of my choice without thrashing around like a wounded turtle at the mercy of the wind. (Also wanna grin at the 4x4 ATV's sitting on dry ground in awe of my awesome swimming ability!)

[hydromike]

I'm sure there must be info I haven't seen yet.

I look at tires a LOT, mostly just for fun and to see if there are bargains out there. I often think I've found a cool tire that'll be a little different, or that hasn't been discussed at all but it's at that point that I'll type the name of the tire and "Hustler" in the search box. There are so many (SO many) different discussions that I won't even post the dozens that pop up. Since a lot of threads invariably turn to some discussion about the Vampire tires, type in "Hustler Vampire ASX", and you'll get a ton of thread links that discuss a multitude of tires that swim and don't swim.

[MAX IV Mark]

Here is a link to look at. I havent seen anyone post it yet.

http://www.6x6world.com/forums/tire-track-wheel-talk/21378-big-tires-swim-great.html

[lewis]

According to the chart the Rawhides will out swim the At189 tires. In reality the AT189 tires will out swim the Rawhide. Not wanting to step on any ones toes or start a tires war. Best i could do with the rawhides was 1.9mph. At189 speed was 3.9mph. The AT 189 is a great all around tire.....but they are a little pricey. This i will admit.

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[amphibious drew]

According to the chart the Rawhides will out swim the At189 tires. In reality the AT189 tires will out swim the Rawhide. Not wanting to step on any ones toes or start a tires war. Best i could do with the rawhides was 1.9mph. At189 speed was 3.9mph. The AT 189 is a great all around tire.....but they are a little pricey. This i will admit.

I don't know Lewis. Your ride swims pretty fast, and I never clocked my Attex in the water. I wish I remembered if Jersey Bigfoot has the 189's on his argo. I remember racing him in the water with my Attex last time I went to Busco. He was quick, but I was sitting on my front end and I went faster with my 21" Rawhide I's. There are so many variables, to water speed, I don't think you can say one tire or another is the fastest water tire for our machines. I think if we tested all the swimming tires on all the different machines, we would find that the tire that swims the fastest on machine A is not always the tire that swims the fastest on machine B.

[Dan67]

I can add what I know.. I have an Argo Conquest 8x8. When I first got it, it had 8 rawhide III 22" tires on it. It swam ok with about 2/3 throttle. I upgraded it to 8 AT-189 24" tires. It swims much faster now with 1/3 throttle. Lewis' avenger is a fast swimmer naturally because the rear axles are a bit higher up in the water and those tires move it much like a paddle wheel boat.

[lewis]

If we are talking about the Maxgo they were Rawhide 3's. The test i was referring to was the one we did for Argo with my 2006. All conditions same with my machine(2006) same weight, same machine, same pond. I had Rawhide 3's on first and used a GPS to acquire water speeds. Then changed to the AT189 tire. Under the same conditions the results were AT189: 3.9 Rawhide 3 tires: 1.9 . You are right different machines may move faster due to hull configuration, etc. But with the tests that i was involved with with the Argo Avenger this was the results. They are a pretty good mud tire also. It is not all in the speed but the control in the water also and they seem to control very well also.

But the fastest tire i have seen and this is my opinion from all the rides and water, are the tires that are put on the Max IV machines. They scream through the water. Robbie and Lance fly in the water.

[amphibious drew]

Marc was not driving the Maxgo he was in his Bigfoot. Like I say though, I don't know if he has 189's or runamuks on it. We were both cooking through the water though. I also agree about the 26x12x12 terra tires. Those things are real quick. I haven't had a chance to take mine for a good swim yet, but thats why I put them on my Max IV.