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Just got through fixing an axle that went in on me. Opened the lock collar on the outer bearing and slid it out until the sprocket was lined up and tightened the collar again. Went around to the front to pull my bent axle off and try and straighten it and it had a locking collar on the inner bearing. The rear didn't. And I got to looking around and this was the only axle that does. My question is are they all supposed to have two lock rings in the bearings? One on the out side and one on the inner bearing in the middle of the tub???
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Don't know why this got 0 replies... I've seen that and worse, sometimes owners use bearings that have set screws on the inner end of the axles. I don't guess it's a big deal if that's what they had available, as long as they do the trick and hold.
You mentioned a bent axle, were you going to heat it and then straighten it? I broke and welded a front left 3 times, they don't seem to like running while bent, and don't last long before breaking. Also you posted on the same day that you ordered a set of Whipper's axles and necessary components, are you just temping things until your parts get there? Hey, I don't blame you, if so, once you start driving these things, you don't really want to wait for parts...
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I am pretty much doing a frame out rebuild. Welded up a winch mount and a body ban today. Going to paint the frame while I'm waiting for the new axles. The new axles are bigger and splined so I should have as many bent problems. And I didn't hear the axle I just put it in my 12 ton press and straightened it. Not sure what I'm going to do with them.Steven UntietComment
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Keep a couple with their related parts for emergencies... nah, scratch that, I"m pretty sure your days of having bent axles will end when you install Whippers axles! Bigger, and stronger steel, with no stupid hole through the middle means you will have to smack down against something REALLY hard to bend one.DESTRUCTION is just a couple of vowels down the street from DISTRACTIONComment
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I don't want to be in that machine when that happens
Originally posted by Model Citizen View PostGoing into the Archives now, are we, Whipper? That pic is B.S.... (before springered). I did this to a stock axle when that rock jumped out at me. Give me more time & I'll find your weak spots.
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Glad you explained that pic, from the camera angle it merely looks as though someone is trying out a front steer/skid steer hybrid...
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Back on topic.. Yes the bearings are supposed to have locking collars on the inner bearings and the outer bearings. I know for a fact the collars sometimes fall off the inner bearing and into the channel. What I did was to order some clamp collars from mcmaster-carr. I added 1 on each on the inside of the outer bearing. My axles are in there tight now.
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Oh, right Dan, we do tend to get off topic from time to time. Another thing some folks have done is to cut some pvc pipe and install over the axles as spacers between the bearings and sprockets, so that when/if they loose a setscrew the sprockets won't slide around and risk throwing a chain.
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I am not saying this is a valid thing to do but my Max IV originally had the set screw configuration to lock the sprockets in place. The previous owner had hose clamps installed around the axles to keep the sprokets from floating around. I discovered this when I broke an axle and put groves in all the axles to match the new one and used snap rings to hold its location.
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Are the outer locking collars supposed to be on the inside or outside of the tub? Mine were on the inside. and the locking collars on the inner bearing were twords the center, in the little channel between sides. I guess it doesn't matter what side i put those on.Steven UntietComment
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I had the very same question when I did my rebuild. I talked to many members here and discovered that sometimes the outer bearing clamp was outside the body and sometimes, inside the body. On my hustler I had them on the outside. I added clamp collars to the inside of the outer bearing to help hold it tight and to keep axle from walking out. The hustler axle really cannot walk in because it is stepped down to 1" shaft for the inner bearing.Originally posted by suntiet View Post
Hope this helps explain it better..Comment
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If you have Eccentric Locking Collars they must mount on the correct side of the bearing to lock properly.
Regular collars are sometimes added to prevent the shaft or sprocket hub from side to side movement.Comment
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