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    ok i just picked up my 1996 max IV today and im still getting the hang of driving so my question is when climbing hills how steep can this thing climb before it decides to flip backwards i really dont want to find out the hard way so i was hoping some experienced drivers could chime in
    1996 MAX IV ,KUBOTA DIESEL
    MAX II 30HP Bandolero

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    Originally posted by countrycummins99 View Post
    ok i just picked up my 1996 max IV today and im still getting the hang of driving so my question is when climbing hills how steep can this thing climb before it decides to flip backwards i really dont want to find out the hard way so i was hoping some experienced drivers could chime in
    hi country i don't know i have not flip our 4 yet. but i have fliped my II pleanty . hope we don;t find out the hard way . robbie
    1999 max 2 18 b&s 22 tires custom . new max iv 23 k 26 i/n tires brown . ht cable promark winch . new toy 1972 attex st400 400ccjlo and she will be bad . ( the frog ) if it don't float with out you getting wet . don't bring it ! R.I.P sage rogers 4 11 09 . you can't fix stuped !!!!! raceone 3 .)

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    • #3
      My manual says my t-boss will take a 45 degree incline, and I have successfully challenged that. 45 degrees is steep enough for me as it is. I don't toy around with much more than that.
      It's all just nuts and bolts.

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      • #4
        by 45 degree do you mean 45% grade because an actual 45 degree angle is nothing really but a 45% grade is rather steep actually really steep
        1996 MAX IV ,KUBOTA DIESEL
        MAX II 30HP Bandolero

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        • #5
          Originally posted by countrycummins99 View Post
          by 45 degree do you mean 45% grade because an actual 45 degree angle is nothing really but a 45% grade is rather steep actually really steep
          50% grade = 45 degrees
          i know mike and joe m were doig more than 45 degrees at busco but if they had gassed it on that hill an gotten traction they would have flipped i'm guessing

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          • #6
            Originally posted by countrycummins99 View Post
            by 45 degree do you mean 45% grade because an actual 45 degree angle is nothing really but a 45% grade is rather steep actually really steep
            The boss was built in the 60/70's, and we weren't as technical back then, so it is 45 degrees. Also, the way it is designed with my weight being the foremost, it would probably take a steeper grade without having to worry about flipping. My guess is that depending on tires, traction would be more of a concern. Also (engine) power would come into play. But as I said, 45 degrees is enough for me.
            It's all just nuts and bolts.

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            • #7
              Hi country,I have been up a lot steeper angle than 45 degree on my maxll with out any problem.But thats just me,I'm crazy like that....So the wife said.WEEEE
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              • #8
                45 degree angle is steeper than 45% grade.......
                a 6x6 should be able to do at least about 50% grade

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                • #9
                  ditch

                  [QUOTE=coosaridgerider;40406]Hi country,I have been up a lot steeper angle than 45 degree on my maxll with out any problem.But thats just me,I'm crazy like that....So the wife said.WEEEE[/QUOTE


                  so they dredged the small stream behind my house a couple weeks ago and tried to block off the normal quad paths just because the guy with the machine was an ahole but anyways i descended into the creek and on the other side the back was about 15 feet tall i imagine it was prolly along the lines of a 60 degree angle and i had no issues a all making it up man can these things climb!!!! its scary but they do it
                  1996 MAX IV ,KUBOTA DIESEL
                  MAX II 30HP Bandolero

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                  • #10
                    [quote=countrycummins99;40412]
                    Originally posted by coosaridgerider View Post
                    Hi country,I have been up a lot steeper angle than 45 degree on my maxll with out any problem.But thats just me,I'm crazy like that....So the wife said.WEEEE[/QUOTE


                    so they dredged the small stream behind my house a couple weeks ago and tried to block off the normal quad paths just because the guy with the machine was an ahole but anyways i descended into the creek and on the other side the back was about 15 feet tall i imagine it was prolly along the lines of a 60 degree angle and i had no issues a all making it up man can these things climb!!!! its scary but they do it
                    Cool,It's all about being one with machine,Knowing what you and machine are capable of doing.I love that rush.
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                    • #11
                      This sounds like a thread that needs some videos!

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                      • #12
                        How steep can you go???

                        Originally posted by countrycummins99 View Post
                        ok i just picked up my 1996 max IV today and im still getting the hang of driving so my question is when climbing hills how steep can this thing climb before it decides to flip backwards i really dont want to find out the hard way so i was hoping some experienced drivers could chime in
                        If you wondering how steep you can go then you should install a roll cage as soon as possible so you can roll more than once! I watched a Max 4 at ledges last year cross a creek and climb a steep bank on the other side with the last foot or so straight up. He did a backwards roll and ended up upside down in the mud and water. It took several guys to get him out and roll the machine over. He was lucky he had a cage or that Max would have squashed him like a bug and or dround him. Ive rolled my Max more than once and the cage is why I'm still here to tell about it.

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                        • #13
                          CAGE

                          yup my max has a cage i am afraid to roll mine because i dont want to damage anything but it can climb up some steep stuff so far without rolling ill get some vids this weekend
                          1996 MAX IV ,KUBOTA DIESEL
                          MAX II 30HP Bandolero

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                          • #14
                            How steep is too steep.

                            I have heard a lot of good advice. The roll cage is a great idea and a roll bar would be the bare minimum of safe protection. I just have a roll bar and I generally try to back up anything that I don't think I can climb out of safely or get someone / something to hold on to the winch line to keep from coming over if backing up is not an option. With the being said the approach angle is much worse on a max II backing up and I am not sure on a max IV but it does put the engine weight in the correct location. I know this is how one of the max dealers recommend loading the Max so it is just what I do. I see it as a way for a quick escape if needed, just like running a skidloader or dozer (where it should not be ran :-) ). Remember, it is much easier to drive down a steep grade forward than it is to skid backwards or end over end. Just my 2 cents worth though.
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                            Almost as good as my pack horses but a lot easier to feed and catch.

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                            • #15
                              I found a 98 model argo in excellent condition last week for $1000.The guy selling it said the previous owner thought he could climb a mountain on this machine.The previous owner is no longer with us because he flipped the argo and broke his neck,which killed him.I was second in line to get it but the first guy showed up and bought it.You can't get all the deals,Maybe it's best that i lost out on this one.My point is ride safe,I would hate to hear something like this happen to one of the members.The argo had no roll cage,Too bad.
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