top speed

[hopper28755]

hi what would the top speed on a 16 hp motor.

[jpswift1]

In a Max II or IV? What size tires? What clutch spring, green or red? What 16HP engine, the Tecumseh or the Briggs Vanguard?

[coosaridgerider]

That would depend on the machine that it is in.

[hopper28755]

it is the green max ii 2008 model it has a 16 hp vangard.

[coosaridgerider]

It should run around 25mph on land.

[jpswift1]

it is the green max ii 2008 model it has a 16 hp vangard.

What size tires? 21" or 22" What color is the driven clutch spring on the T-20? Green or red?

[Old Tucker]

hi what would the top speed on a 16 hp motor.

My go cart would do 40mph
My argo will do 60mph {down hill with the argo plastic tracks on ice.} Talk about dam scary. I had to make a quick run into the bushes to change my pants. What a ride that was just like been on a crazy carpet.

[Joe H]

If everything is working properly your max should do about 25 mph top speed is determined by engine rpm and gearing, it has nothing to do with the color of the secondary spring and the difference between 21 & 22 inch tires is almost nothing.

[jpswift1]

Yep, 25 mph sounds about right for the majority of the Max II's out there. The color of the secondary spring actually does make a difference on the top speed since the stiffness of springs is different. It has been proven by a GPS reading by 6X6World member Noel Woods.

http://www.6x6world.com/forums/transmissions/15144-swamp-fox-clutch-problems.html

"You know the top speed of my two vehicles dropped considerably. The red speed probably took the speed on my Max2 down to 18mph, If I recall gps with the green spring put the speed at 24mph. On my Swamp Fox, top speed went from 28mph down to 20mph but I also installed the larger more aggressive ASX tires at the same time so I can't really call the speed difference only due to the red spring."

[lewie72]

how has that been proven when 6x6world member Noel Woods says in the quote "I can't really call the speed difference only due to the red spring." that sounds to me like it could have made a difference but not PROVEN !

[Outdoorsy74]

I believe jpSwift1 was referring to the part of the quote that said "The red speed probably took the speed on my Max2 down to 18mph, If I recall gps with the green spring put the speed at 24mph." The other part of the comment was to say he couldn't verify the root cause of the swamp fox's drop in top speed due to 2 changes that could have affected it.

[Don]

I'm just curious as to how the secondary springs would effect the top speed. Is the red spring so stiff that it never lets the primary clutch close all the way? That's the only way I can think of that would make a lower high end happen. I would think there'd be a happy medium somewhere that would delay the shift to a higher ratio but still allow it to open up when you're wide open on flat land.

[lewie72]

the definition of proven is "having been demonstrated or verified without a doubt" im not saying anyone is right or wrong but theres nothing in the quote that says this is proven

[whipper-ag]

[jpswift1]

I believe jpSwift1 was referring to the part of the quote that said "The red speed probably took the speed on my Max2 down to 18mph, If I recall gps with the green spring put the speed at 24mph." The other part of the comment was to say he couldn't verify the root cause of the swamp fox's drop in top speed due to 2 changes that could have affected it.

Exactly, thank you outdoorsy.

I'm just curious as to how the secondary springs would effect the top speed. Is the red spring so stiff that it never lets the primary clutch close all the way? That's the only way I can think of that would make a lower high end happen. I would think there'd be a happy medium somewhere that would delay the shift to a higher ratio but still allow it to open up when you're wide open on flat land.

I believe that's exactly how it goes, Don. One of these days when I have a chance, I'm going to test this out first hand and get an exact GPS readout and make some first hand observations of the secondary clutch with both springs.

the definition of proven is "having been demonstrated or verified without a doubt" im not saying anyone is right or wrong but theres nothing in the quote that says this is proven

I'm aware of what the definition of proven is. Maybe Noel can chime in and help us out and let us know his exact findings.