Mudd-Ox satisfaction

[mudslinger]

Unfortunately Matt's pond is not a pond right now, when we visited him a few weekends ago it didn't have enough water in it to float the gasser I was test driving, apparently the local farmer used up too much of the local ground water on his crops and Matt has to dredge the pond out to make it an actual pond again. Your best bet is to call him before you visit and he can tell you the status of the pond. I was disappointed the water wasn't deep enough to float the Ox and plan on visiting Matt again when the water level is up and he has a turbo diesel to test drive.

[rentalrider]

Turbo diesel you say? Hmmmm... I'm REALLY interested now!

[thebuggyman1]

How was the mud in the back? [IMG][/IMG]

And what the pond SHOULD look like.
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[mudbug3]

I've always considered a mud-ox but have one question that could make or break my decision. How do they float? Not nec. swim as I use an outboard for the large bodies we need to traverse but how is their stability in the water? Especially when loaded...

Diesel Mudd-Ox in the water unloaded

Diesel Mudd-Ox loaded

[kghills]

Wow, 32 replies and over 560 views to this thread. Great to see the interest in Mudd-Ox. I still think it looks incredibly maneuverable. Here is a video of the Mudd-Ox in action on a ride I attended.

I do not know what year production model this Mudd-Ox was but it performed without incident and for a big commercial unit was every bit as agile as the other machines on the ride. For a big machine Mudd-Ox rates way cool in my AATV book.

Keith.

[mudslinger]

Jim,

We didn't see any real mud, especially like you show in your picture, maybe because it was so dry, the pond water level the day we were there wasn't anywhere as deep as what your photo shows, if we had gone into the pond we most likely would have been touching bottom and not floating.

[thebuggyman1]

That was the evil pond that ate my sportster...

Perhaps it's funny today, but I sure didn't think so that day. Grrr LOL

[Buzz]

put swimmer tires on if you want more speed. Nothing new there. Also, we've discussed the "loading" issue in the water before. Set the rig up correctly and you will have no issue. Front-heavy top heavy is no good. Argo is no different. I'll say it again, look over your rig and put together spare parts you might need. Anything can happen. All relays have #'s on them. So do belts. It is irresponsible to venture off the beaten path without the "basic" sparre parts. It's better to look things over yourself anyway so that you know what else will need to be taken apart or "moved" if you ever have to change a part. Parts break sometimes, even new ones. Be prepared.

[akexpress]

For what it is worth put a factory ROPS on an Argo and it is no longer considered amphibious. Mudd-Ox comes standard with a ROPS and still swims.

[eddieb1965]

Quite a difference(structure wise and weight) in the Argo ROPS and the folding rollbar on the OX.

[thebuggyman1]

Quite a difference(structure wise and weight) in the Argo ROPS and the folding rollbar on the OX.

What do they each weigh? Tube sizes, and wall thickness? Material composition, mild steel? chromoly? titanium???

[eddieb1965]

Looks like Mudd-Oxx Folding Rollbar 84.0 lbs and the Argo ROPS 140 lbs.

[thebuggyman1]

Cool, Where did you find specs? I would have guessed they both weighed more than that. 84 Lbs is only the weight of a child, and 140 Lbs is a female passenger. I know I've had a maxII in the water with 2 large males (approaching 500 Lbs combined) and it was a little scary in the turns. Straight with no rocking was OK.

[Obsessed]

I know I've had a maxII in the water with 2 large males (approaching 500 Lbs combined) and it was a little scary in the turns. Straight with no rocking was OK.

lol...thats funny Jim...ive had 4 "grown-up" (sort of) men in a 6x6 argo bigfoot out on the pond before and it wasnt pretty either...all i can say is bring a swimsuit :-) fun to see how accurate the argo 350 lbs water rating really is...lol

I have been trying to catch up on all the conversation in this thread.....in all fairness there has not been many people who have done more to promote the Mudd-Ox machine or our sport than Muddbug3 (along with Mightymax, RD, Noel, FoxValley, MattO, Obsessed, etc)...Dave has probably posted some of the most entertaining and impressive video currently available on the Mudd-Ox and if you happen to get to watch any of his videos its hard not to want one for yourself...not many people have been able to capture how impressive and capable these machines are any better than Dave...i cant think of a single video that Dave has posted that shows a Mudd-Ox machine stuck or broke down...and i honestly get calls and emails every day from people who just discovered our sport by running accross one of these guys videos...(then we send them to 6x6world to join up and learn more and its pretty much a done deal from there...lol)

i agree that the conversations reguarding our sport needs to be kept as positive as possible and we all realize that we are a pretty small group of friends and we dont need any help reducing our customer base...I see it from both sides, but I dont necessarly get from this conversation that he is just "bashing" the brand, but instead simply responding honestly to a persons question and giving his own personal experiance...most people will agree (including Dave) that the OX is truely an awesome machine for the right type of consumer and that it is simply amazing that Matt has preservered long enough to end up with a good product that works great for some people...but i think that Dave is wise enough to know by now how important it is to make sure that the right type of person gets a very specific productlike this...no different than the big decision to buy a 6x6 or an 8x8, tracks or no tracks, pickup truck or car...you cant just say "buy it and you'll love it" about anything with a clear conscience.... put the wrong type of AATV in the hands of a person with a specific need or expectation, and you'll just damage our sport by creating a very dissapointed and unhappy customer...there is not a mfg out there that wants a single customer that is unhappy with their product, Matt included

i personally believe that people come to this site to get honest info that they can trust so that they can make educated decisions for themselves and hopefully get excited about AATV's (all brands and options) in the process which is what most of us really wish to see...help put the right type of guy or girl into a machine thats a really good fit for them and watch how quickly they become another addict to our sport

just my opinion, Tim

[Buzz]

Tim, I agree with you in regards to promoting the sport and giving honest information. In fact, I usually only post when I see that "biased" or incomplete information is given out. I'm not Mr. Negative, but if I see something that I don't agree with, it's only fair to make a comment. A person needs to consider many factors, yet I see unwarranted stabs frequently. It is what it is, and I have absolutely no vested stake in any of this.....other than I enjoy the sport, enjoy helping people, and am easily bugged when mis-information is given. Malicious posts are hard to sugar-coat.