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  • Mudd Ox vs other Hydro drives

    Most of you guys know I have owned several aatv's. One of my favorite was the old Cushman Trackster back in the early 70's. It didn't float very well, but was heck of an old swamp runner.
    Since then I owned a Hydro Traxx for a few years. It was a very tough machine and I liked it very much. The high whine of the Generac engine drove me nuts, but it was also a very tough machine. I understand the new units have a bigger engine and are not as loud.
    The most impressive machine that I have driven is the Mudd Ox. I don't own one yet, but I can't wait to get my hands on one.
    I test drove one recently and found it to be about everything that other Hydro static machines are not.
    I like the larger engine with the CVT clutch. It will allow me to putt down the trail at a lower rpm. The external braces on the axels will tie all of the axels together for much more strength. I carry moose and I believe it will do that very well.
    I like the center engine for better balance and a better "pivot" point while going over logs and up sharp banks. In my experience, the 8 wheel units have a greater "traction" with more wheels on the ground when going over sharp banks, logs etc.
    I especially like the fluid drive when going through swamps. When turning or if one side bogs down, it is easy to add more power to the bogging side rather than having to brake to turn. Momentum is EVERYTHING!
    I could go on for days, but I think that Matt at Mudd Ox has designed one heck of a machine.
    I live in an area that requires a machine that will hold up under sub-zero as well as gruelling peat bogs, and carry heavy loads. I believe the Mudd Ox will keep me from having to walk out.
    Bubba
    Last edited by George"Bubba"Hunt; 03-17-2009, 12:24 PM.

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    Welcome, Bubba. I enjoyed your Route6x6 posts a few years back, and am glad to see that you are still active in the AATV world.

    I recall your devotion to the Hydrotraxx, but I have a question. How can the Mudd Ox be your new favorite if you don't own one, and have not run it through it's paces for at least a season in the Alaskan wilderness? You are well known for truly testing the limits of your machines, and were never bashful about posting your experiences in a balanced and entertaining manner.

    Best regards,

    Bud

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    • #3
      Bubba ,

      I also enjoyed reading about your Hydro Traxx , 6x6 adventures, on Route 6x6too. The Hydro Traxx 6x6 is a well built machine , but like you Bubba ,what turned me off about it , was the constant loud whine of the hydrolics. The CVT design of the Mudd Ox allows you to drive slowly through the trails with a lot less noise. At lower engine rpm,s , you,ll also use a lot less gas too.
      Another thing that I like about the Mudd Ox when compared to the Hydro Traxx , is the versatility of it. It can be used commercially , and also for recreational purposes as well. The Hydro Traxx 6x6 is mainly limited to forrest roads , dirt roads , pipe lines , and open off road areas.

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      • #4
        OOps

        Bud, I see that I made a statement about the Mudd Ox being my "favorite Machine". Well what I really meant was the Mudd Ox was the best operating machine that I had driven. No I haven't put it through the bad stuff yet, but what I have seen and what I found by driving one, certainly answers a lot of the questions. I wouldn't hesitate buying one.

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        • #5
          A Mudd Ox is definitely on my "must see" list. I am looking forward to real world use critiques from qualified riders like yourself, and also waiting for that winning lotto ticket that will allow me to purchase one!

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          • #6
            Bud,


            If things work out in the very near future ( this year ) I,ll have a new Mudd Ox , 8x8 , and you,ll be seeing lots of Mudd Ox video,s on the forum.

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            • #7
              Cool!

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              • #8
                curious !

                Just curious to know if Bubba ever did buy himself a Mudd-Ox and if so what does he think of it compared to his Hydrotraxx ?
                Last edited by Mike; 05-16-2010, 09:39 AM. Reason: moved post to existing thread on the topic

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                • #9
                  To the best of my knowledge he has not bought a Mudd-Ox. He recently looked at a diesel model and was impressed. He had recently experienced some medical issues and put his Mudd-Ox purchase on hold but appears to be doing quite well from that.
                  Last edited by Mike; 05-17-2010, 10:12 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Glad to hear that George is doing well..........I'm looking forward to his sharing of more of his experiences.

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                    • #11
                      Howdy gang, I'm back,well and getting my new Ox in a couple of weeks. It is loaded with about everything. I'll be hitting the trail again soon.
                      Thanks for all of your prayers and support. I made it through all 5 major surgeries this last year, which shows that you just can't keep an old mudrat down.
                      Bubba

                      Juggernaut, I can already compare it to the hydrotraxx. There is no comparison with that diesel, and 8 wheels pivots much better on logs and sharp river banks. Matt has listened to all of the suggestions and talent of this forum, and has built a machine that nothing else seems to come close to.
                      I'll have a log when I get mine in July and share everything I find.
                      A friend of mine spent 7 hard hours in muskeg bogs and steep grades that scared him, pulling another machine ( without tracks).
                      He burned only 1/2 to 3/4 of gallons of fuel an hour. He was overwhelmed how much power the turbo diesel had.
                      My Ox will be loaded with about everything. I will shooting a lot of video.

                      Hey Juggernaut,
                      I have been down with a ton(5) surgeries in the last year.Now I'm ready to hit the swamps.
                      I ordered my new M-O. it is the turbo diesel with everything on it that's made. I should be getting it in early July.
                      I'll be keeping an accurate log on everything I find out and posting on this forum.
                      So far the tests have been screaming on the power and fuel economy of the diesel unit. I will be testing in Alaska's Black Water swamp, which is nothing more than a lake covered in mud and floating peat about 2 feet thick. 4 wheelers have been sunk by stupid folks trying to follow my partner's argo.I will be doing dept checks to see just how deep the bottom actually is. That will be the ultimate test. No one goes into the middle of that swamp, not even the argo's. I will be shooting a lot of video, and shareing it all with this forum.Should I get stuck, i always have my partner's argo. He is very interested in how I do, and I would imagine a lot of other folks. We'll see because I have to know myself, even if I get my rear end wet.
                      Bubba
                      Bubba
                      Last edited by Mike; 06-18-2010, 05:22 PM. Reason: merged three consecutive posts

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                      • #12
                        Hey Juggernaut, I should have my Ox the first week of July. Can't wait to see what that diesel will do. I'll have the 20 inch tracks and all the options. I'm having to keep on the move because my little wife is after me threatening all sorts of bad stuff. Naa, actually she said all of my birthdays, fathers days, Christmases,will be covered for the rest of my life. How Kool is that! Just think, I won't have to be shaking presents for ever!
                        I have been down with a bunch of bad surgeries in the last year. Got a couple of disc's whacked 3 weeks ago. Doing good though, and can't wait to get mud all over myself. There's something about the smell of a peat bog that I miss.

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                        • #13
                          Good to have you back............looking forward to your abusing.........eh,......... I mean testing a hydrostatic + chain drive compared to a straight hydrostatic drive like your old Hydrotraxx.

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                          • #14
                            So did you buy one. How about a report if you did. Thanks

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                            • #15
                              Bubba has a fully decked out diesel Mudd-Ox that he got in July and is at this time using it for moose hunting and i am sure will give a full report when he returns

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