KruSty CooT: WagZ new Build..

[mustangwagz]

So dis-assembly started lastnight, and all i can say is...


all i have to say is.."HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!" the axle tubes were a fight. Mixed up a concotion of acetone and atf, left them soak all day while i was at work, came home and still fought them!! i ended up taking the 3 bolts outta the aluminum housing, sliding whole assembly out a bit and then proceeded to beat the living snot outta the aluminum housings till the worked loose. Didnt damage them either to thats a plus. You say those were O-Rings eh? lol I can guarantee they were sealed on the tube, thats FOR SURE! hahaha. Upon removing the tubes i noticed some areas with pin holes along the tube, so not sure EXACTLY what my plan is, but imma measure the tube and see what the "ID" of it is, and possibly just replace them using the old outter flanges. Looks like Exhaust pipe to be honest with ya..thin walled tube with a seam in it, if i could find similar tube, i know i can get an o-ring that'll fit...we got TONS of O-rings for all the CAT equipment we work on.

[mustangwagz]

yah i know the drive has to be setup for 4 stoke, i aint gotta clutch for drive yet, cuz i aint gotta motor yet either. ill work on that too. haha. I have a driven sitting here that might work but i gotta do some more digging. Ill have to call my buddy joe H, he knows alot about clutchs..

Muhahaha, Woo, excited!! Alomst done with garage door openers, once im done dickin with those, its coot time after dark! YEAH BOYY!!

[Coop]

I suspect if you use a 2 stroke clutch with a 4 stroke engine you will have to change either the weights or springs, maybe both, otherwise the clutch wont shift properly due to the much lower rpm of the 4 stroke. I know that is true of the drive clutch, not sure about the driven. I put the new torque sensitive clutches on my COOT, they work off torque rather than rpm.

Coop

[mustangwagz]

Nice new toy Wagz! Can't wait to see it on the trails.

Joe.

Thanks joe! Hope to see yinz all out there soon! hahaha



SO heres a question, say i had a secondary (driven) clutch sittin here that someone donated me for a science project...If it was from a 2 stroke, could i use it on a trans if shaft matches the bore diameter? Will i need to change spring or whats up? (CLUTCH GURU's...this is for you..lol)

Just trying to get my ducks in a line before i do any thing.

[JoeMeg]

Nice new toy Wagz! Can't wait to see it on the trails.

Joe.

[jpswift1]

Glad to help you secure a new toy, Wagz. I tend to be a bad influence like that.....and other ways I won't discuss on here. It looks like there's enough good sheet metal for you to weld patch panels on. And it looks like the Coot bronze gears that everyone seems to always strip or wear out are in excellent shape on yours. I can't stand those BS tricks sellers on Craigslist try to pull. You called his bluff so well and he knew you saw right through the crap he was trying to feed you, haha. Well done! Looking forward to seeing the progress on it!

[LittleG]

Congrats on the new build there is a guy on ebay parting one out just type in coot and hit search good luck and happy building

[mustangwagz]

Hey Zack:
You asked about top speed. I managed to hit 18mph according to GPS. I think it would be a bit quicker but I've got an issue with my high gear. Low gear is a real stump puller. The manual I picked up says low is a 164 to 1 ratio and I believe it.
I'm thinking along with Coop about switching over to hydraulic power, that will likewise give it some seriously low gearing. As for high speed its not that kind of machine, big and tough and a bit rough riding.
I think a Coot feels best at about 8 mph based upon my limited runs so far. I do mostly run in swamps though and I've got the big tires on mine.

Low gear is a stump puller eh!??!! SWEEEET!! other than riding at ashtabula, thats why i wanted this old girl! lol I wanted to be able to skid some logs with it cuz my mule just wont do it sometimes! lol I got my bronco for the BIG SHTUFF!!! (can be seen in back ground of my pictures) The bronco does the HUUGE stuff only. of it i get something stuck and i wanna pull it out, i use that. THe coots drive terrain, and the gear reduction will make it perfect for my area i live in. all the Huge rocks, and rough freaking terrain is why i wanted the coot. Its ability to move around, and over, while taking the bashing on the rocks is the biggest thing. Everyone always heard me complaining about "rocks' and how the attex wouldnt survive in this area...well, thats when i found the coots and set out to find one! lol It'll do GREAT around here, Pullin logs, Taking rides, and having fun! Ill enjoy this hog! It'll be like a mini bronco! Muhahahahaa!!

According to the manual scott sent me, it uses 5x4.5 lug wheels..Thats great! lol Rangers, Jeeps use the same pattern! I have access to about a dozen different kinda wheels from those vehicles..including aluminum ones. 14" and 15"...and i dunno IF i could....but i do have a set of 35" boggers..LOL Doods......thatd be insane! i might just mount a set to take pictures of it! hahahaha. Oh man, thatd be NUTS! As for running though, ill prolly just mount up some good tires on 15" rims, and throw tire chains on it the whole way around.

This thing is gonna be great! i cant wait to get it all figured out and running like a champ! Man, imma have a blast in it!! lol Woot!!

[Noel Woods]

Hey Zack:
You asked about top speed. I managed to hit 18mph according to GPS. I think it would be a bit quicker but I've got an issue with my high gear. Low gear is a real stump puller. The manual I picked up says low is a 164 to 1 ratio and I believe it.
I'm thinking along with Coop about switching over to hydraulic power, that will likewise give it some seriously low gearing. As for high speed its not that kind of machine, big and tough and a bit rough riding.
I think a Coot feels best at about 8 mph based upon my limited runs so far. I do mostly run in swamps though and I've got the big tires on mine.

[mustangwagz]

Congrats Zack! Maybe I could come and check it out sometime, I have never seen one in person.

Thanks joe!! Hey your always welcome in these parts of the woods buddy. Hell, Everyone on the forum is!! but your about the closest so its really easy for you! lol just txt me some night ya wanna stop out. I Havent got to taking it apart yet. Almost done with my garage door openers, so soon it'll be coot time!!

Glad Jeff and I could help you attain your new toy there Wagz! It looks like a good machine for you. I think the holes and everything just take away from the cash value you needed to pay for it, and is really no big deal for you to fix. Anyways, congratulations and thanks for getting some pics of your dirty old coot up for me to look at.

Thanks again drew! Glad ya sent me the phone call! Even if our plans didnt work out, all that matters is its here! lol Once i told the seller "Damn, looks like i cant get it then...guess you'll have to sell it to one of the other 3 ppl you got asking about it" he almost immediatly offered to bring it down!! lol HOOK, LINE, SINKER!! Tadah!! lol for 350 bucks, i did just fine i'd say. Hell, i could probably part it out for that price if i had to.

[amphibious drew]

Glad Jeff and I could help you attain your new toy there Wagz! It looks like a good machine for you. I think the holes and everything just take away from the cash value you needed to pay for it, and is really no big deal for you to fix. Anyways, congratulations and thanks for getting some pics of your dirty old coot up for me to look at.

[Joe H]

Congrats Zack! Maybe I could come and check it out sometime, I have never seen one in person.

[Coop]

I've had my GPS in mine, 15 mph is all I could get, but mine is geared down a little from stock. But 15 mph is enough w/o suspension. I have a list of the common parts, but I can't seem to get it listed here, I'll send it to you by e-mail...

Coop

[mustangwagz]

Yes, you are right, they are 1", not 3/4", I was thinking about the prop drive shaft that I made for mine, that was 3/4.

Brakes aren't needed under most conditions, only time I've wished I had them was when climbing a steep hill and not being able to make it and having to back down, you want to shift into reverse quickly and not miss the shift, otherwise you'll be freewheeling, gets scary fast. A hydraulic caliper off a motorcycle or similar would probably work good.

My plan is to use a single hydraulic motor to replace the Apex gearbox, with the hydraulic drive, I'll have brakes just by moving my motion control in the opposite direction. I have the pump and FNR valve, and I've sourced the motor, just got to get around to doing it. I'm going to have to get a higher HP engine too, Looking for a Vanguard 23HP, that is about what it will take to drive the pump to get enough flow to drive the motor so I don't loose any ground speed that I have now with the transmission.

Coop

Good deal, i went back outside and measured my input shaft and seen it was 1" again so i was like ok..either my coot has been bastardized, or something is up? lol so anyhow, i found tons of 1" keyed shaft for pretty cheap so thats a plus. EBAY! lol pretty much ALL the parts except a few can be had via TSC, Ebay or Surplus Center. Its the specialty things that cannot be had there.. which im sure ill pay a lot for! lol Trans is biggest thing ill need once i get body built back to specs but ive already spoke about that. ill have to make a S/N over at coot world and try to find bearing numbers N all that good jazz. Today i noticed the Set screws (square headed ones) are busted off on the Left side of machine. The ones that hold the universal joint knuckle to the front axle...so thats a lovely thing. lol Ill drill and EZ out em.

Hey coop/Noel, just how fast will these things travel?

[mustangwagz]

Congrats Zach!

Thanks George!