Terra tiger help

[Guest]

Just picked up my first 6x6. Its a complete Terra tiger minus the engine.

The previous owner had a 13hp horizontal shaft on it. I think I'll pick up a harbor freight predator 13hp for it and run that.

Curious what my clutch options are. It still has the belt and the driven and a spare belt. Everything looks to be in decent shape but needs new cables and tires.

Just curious about this but did the Terra tigers use normal axle hubs? The wheels I have slide on to the axles and there is a hole that goes through the axle and the wheel sleeve and a bolt run through them???
To me didn't seem like that was correct but looks well done or factory??

Any way I'll post pics tomorrow once I get all the leaves out of it lol.

Thanks guys.

[riotwarrior]

welcome and good luck with the machine, hope to see pics soon.

[thebuggyman1]

You will have to be careful about the clutch, and find one set up for the same width belt as your secondary. I think the stock belt was only 7/8" wide. You will have to call and ask, but this is what i think you will need Comet 40/44 Series Torque Converter System (Symmetrical) for Go Karts & Mini Bikes | Go Kart & Mini Bike Parts | MFG Supply

The honda clone motors are your best choice. Cheap and reliable. The 16hp duromax used to sell cheaper on ebay (approx $300) than the Harbor freight ones. Most have a crappy carb, and run way too lean, but it is easy to drill or replace the jet.

I can't answer about the hubs, but The TT axles were pretty small and weak for as heavy as that thing is.....add in the fact that it has no reverse and you start to understand why the previous owner didn't want to invest in the new engine. If you looked around you may be able to find a cheap 2 stroke just to get it running again. Stock they were 10 or 18 hp, and the steering clutches had enough issues with the 18....so keep it small.

[Guest]

I'll have to go measure the belt. I reached out to richard at Richards relics and apparently the stock clutch was a 500 series comet using a larger .920 belt.....which figures since the drive clutch costs about 260 bucks?!?!?!?!!!!

Once I can figure out what I need I'll have to add up the clsrs and see if its worth it. With that clutch I'd have 600 bucks just in the engine and clutch alone.

[thebuggyman1]

$600 is approx what I sold this one for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpz3Xc1M5vQ

But it did need the cone clutches relined.

Tires are another major expense. There are other good trail machines out there (with reverse) in the $2-3k range.

[jeffery9076]

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[maicolover]

Orginal axles had 3 bolt hubs welded on ends of them and an inner ring to support inner hub of wheel and used tires like all other ATV's at that time. So someone has changed them. We use a 5 bolt hub to 3 bolt conversion on ours with steel rims and Chevron tires. Any of these old machines require $$$$ to fix up and new wheels and tires are expensive. 13 or 16 hp engine is good fit for it. Orginal drive belt was 44 7/8'' X 1 3/16" part #s MAX 1039, HP3003, NAPA Gates 6314

[eddieb1965]

My 3 words,(Dont do it). You are going to put to much money into a marginal machine.I have seen numerous times someone gets a cheap or free machine,then actually spends money on it to get it running.All you end up with is a AATV that is good for maybe a trip around the yard,the performance and reliability will not be there.In the end you will sell it for 1/2 of what you have in it,years later you will tell everyone you had one of those and it was a piece of junk and needed work all the time.There are alot better machines out there,I just hate to see someone trying to get in the hobby suffer with a bad choice.In the end a Terra Tiger even fixed up isnt a keeper machine. JM2cents. Eddie

[eddieb1965]

Lastly,look at the 6x6 World boards.People will brag on their Max 2 and 4's,Argo's,Hustlers,Attex,MuddOx's etc. but I dont see anyone talking up a Terra Tiger.I have owned alot of older machines and know what the drawbacks are.Sorry for the rant ,but everytime I see someone fixing up somthing such as this,and proceeds with it I see a bunch of questions at first and then nothing is ever heard out of them again.

[Guest]

Good information guys and I appreciate it.
The terra tiger was just the 6x6 that I thought looked the best. My father has decided to take it on as his project and we will probably have around a grand in it. I know it wont be worth that but resale isn't the point anyways.

My father really wants it to have a cool conversation peace that functions. It will be rode around the yard and into a pond on the property occasionally.

We are already anticipating getting the refurbed steering clutches from Richards relics.

The weird thing about those axles is that I see them on Richards relics site in a pile of other new axles so they must have been on some sort of 6x6 at some point. If you go to his site and look under parts>chassis> axles they are pictured.

[Guest]

$600 is approx what I sold this one for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpz3Xc1M5vQ

But it did need the cone clutches relined.

Tires are another major expense. There are other good trail machines out there (with reverse) in the $2-3k range.

Dang wish I was around for that. The cheapest I see any aatv around my neck of the woods is 1200 and it has flaws. There is a pair of town down attexs an hour from me that both need engine and rebuilt for 600 each.

[thebuggyman1]

No need to buy the relined cone clutches. Reline them yourself or have a local brake/clutch shop do it.

[AllisAndrew]

I just finished a total restoration of a terra tiger this past spring. lots of body work, every bearing and bushing was replaced, re-lined clutches, new comet primary, new robin Subaru 14 hp (I got it dirt cheap). I will say unless your dead set on a Terra Tiger find another machine. By the time I was done just in parts I had way way way more than I ever wanted to spend not to mention a lot of lot of work. Im and Allis Chalmers guy so that's why it was worth it to me and I love projects. But as stated it dose have drawbacks, no reverse-it can be heavy to push, and without a frame there is a lot of flexing of the body, despite my best efforts of re fiber glassing and using evercoat fiber tech filler I am starting to see some cracks in the gel coat once again. But in the end it was worth it. A few tips I have found; if your machine is an earlier model and dose not have keyed sprockets ditch the groove pins and use grade 8 Allen head bolts and lock washers to secure the axles. Check all your axle flanges for cracks if your going to use adaptors such as those from adair argo, I have broken three wheels off my TT and had to re weld them on and add braces behind them. Also if you decide to use a newer style 4 stroke such as a Honda,Subaru,Harbor Freight etc, don't plan on having anyone but a kid ride shotgun, there is no leg room left since the head sticks out at an angle. And AWLWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS make sure your chains are tight. I have a couple different parts books and made notes of all the new bearing and bushing part numbers along with other various parts so you can get the from your local bearing house. If your interested in a copy or any other info please inbox me Id love to talk Terra Tigers.

[thebuggyman1]

That's really good advice Andrew. The TT can be a fun machine if you remember it's limitations. Just keep it in the fields and on easier trails .....Think of it as owning an old ford model "T". It is a piece of history.
If you really want to hit the hard trails and mud holes, find an inexpensive MaxII or Attex.....you will be much happier.

[eddieb1965]

Remember this is not even a true Allis-Chalmers design,possibly if it had been then things would of been more thought out and heavier duty.