Forum Clean Up

[jpswift1]

I have grown from this website, and I like to think I helped this website grow too. I consider more than one person I the list to be a friend of mine. Heck I consider most people on the list to be my friends. I understand wanting to clean up the site and keep it positive, and I also believe publically shaming these forum members/former forum members is uncalled for and unprofessional. There is no need for public shaming from forum members or the moderators. This makes me very sad.

EXACTLY! These were very prominent members of the site that have roots in the hobby going back to the 1970's. Heck, some of these members even helped to resurrect the 6x6 racing scene.

[TravisW]

A specific group of members have portrayed their image as being prominent members of the community to justify attacking others. However, at the same they time deleted all their previous posts. This included tech tips, videos, photos, and information. Their behavior served everything but the best interest of the community.

They already addressed that point JP, whether you're prominent members of the community or not, consistently displaying the type of behavior that this group of individuals did can't be tolerated if the rest of the community is expected to be able to enjoy the forum.

[Delduck]

I've only been a member for a few years now. I had ABSOLUTELY NO problems paying a miner $20.00 per year for the information that has been given to me this far. I'm not on here to chat about racing, life or the kids. But I am truly thankful for finding this site because of all the knowledge that comes from everyone. My only hope is that those knowledgeable people stay around, speaking for myself I need them. A few of those people unfortunately are some that were asked to leave, hopefully it doesn't effect anymore of the people on this forum. My only suggestion after owning a business for over 24 years, is not to put names out there as it was done, your point was well made no need to continue shaming anyone. Set up your own place for people to go to and discuss the way the site is moderated, But most importantly what I see from this site is most of these people have not only a forum relationship but also a personal, just view some videos from when they all get together and ride at different places, and that may be why your getting some rederic from members who were personal freinds. I need this forum to help me keep a couple machines running for 4 months a year, this place is a lifesaver for me. Thank you to the members and Thanks for listening to my rant.

[onefunzr2]

An awful lot of AATV knowledge just evaporated in one fell swoop when those folks got banned from 6x6world. Tis a pity. Most of them were gracious enough to answer this noobs questions when most of the other 1400 members did not bother. You folks are now gone, but not forgotten. RIP.

[tbone9]

I as well as others on here got tired of the disrespect for others and understand the need for action. I also didn't care for the disrespect of posting a list of names. In my opinion the whole thing was handled poorly on both sides. These fine folks who were banned permanently brought way more good than bad. And in fact are pioneers in the sport. Where I work if you mess up you get a temporary suspension followed by a longer suspension then termination. Since everyone here is on the soup nazi kick even he says "you come back one year!".So what do you say Mr. Moderator, how about a temporary suspension instead of a life sentence? I'm in no way implying the duration be decided by an old sitcom either. Everyone deserves a second chance. Then they can decide if they want to come back. After all this is supposed to be a friendly site, let's show a little compassion, and maybe we will all get some in return. So what do you say?

[Delduck]

I'd like to second that notion mr moderator.

[scimanstev]

Although I am somewhat new to this forum, I am in 4 others, and tbone9's suggestion is note worthy. I did not read the offending posts, but the way they are handled elsewhere is first, they are hidden. Then the offender is given a 7 hour time out, while all the moderators vote on a temporary 2 week ban. If the vote fails, then the offender is allowed back after the 7 hour time out. If the vote succeeds then the offender is out for a full 2 weeks. Only in cases of severe repeat offenders, or a top level offence is the perma-ban used, and even then except for very severe cases is reversed after several months or years.

I very much enjoy being a part of this forum, and certainly do not want to step on toes, but the offending posters I am referring to in other forums usually were able to correct their behavior, and could contribute to the forum in very positive ways, sharing years of experience.

This is just my thoughts, and of course you may do as you see fit.

Steve

[AndyL]

Although I am somewhat new to this forum, I am in 4 others, and tbone9's suggestion is note worthy. I did not read the offending posts, but the way they are handled elsewhere is first, they are hidden. Then the offender is given a 7 hour time out, while all the moderators vote on a temporary 2 week ban. If the vote fails, then the offender is allowed back after the 7 hour time out. If the vote succeeds then the offender is out for a full 2 weeks. Only in cases of severe repeat offenders, or a top level offence is the perma-ban used, and even then except for very severe cases is reversed after several months or years.

I very much enjoy being a part of this forum, and certainly do not want to step on toes, but the offending posters I am referring to in other forums usually were able to correct their behavior, and could contribute to the forum in very positive ways, sharing years of experience.

This is just my thoughts, and of course you may do as you see fit.

Steve

+1

I'm more of a reader than a poster on this forum, but all of these users had great content related to the hobby. I learned a lot from them and will plan on following their contributions to other boards as I learn a lot from them. Please reconsider the permanent ban with one of the suggestions mentioned by other posters in this thread. They need to follow the rules, but 6x6World has become what it is largely because of these pioneers in the hobby.

[jpswift1]

They already addressed that point JP, whether you're prominent members of the community or not, consistently displaying the type of behavior that this group of individuals did can't be tolerated if the rest of the community is expected to be able to enjoy the forum.

I'm aware of that TravisW. I'm not going to get into everything now, but there are a lot of people that don't know the entire story. I'm not going to go back and forth here, but I'll agree that these members don't deserve a permanent ban.

[Noel Woods]

I'm aware of that TravisW. I'm not going to get into everything now, but there are a lot of people that don't know the entire story. I'm not going to go back and forth here, but I'll agree that these members don't deserve a permanent ban.

I agree as well. Lot's of good folks that got the boot. I hate that it happened, but playing devil's advocate and taking Moderator Bob at his word, if there have been multiple warnings, would think some type of action would be appropriate, but a permanent ban seems harsh. I do agree with the moderator that we should all mind our Ps & Qs and try our best not to offend one another, we all may be subject to straying every now and then.

[john swenson]

hard to ignore a little humility and apology from someone who was banned and says they realized they did go out of bounds on the guidelines of the forum and got somewhat carried away. do you think any of these people fell this way and if so,how would they let the moderators know ? do they even care to comeback ? jb

[Don]

I never noticed the ads much, but I do know that once in a while the dating sites would pop up even when Mike had the helm. 'Never really saw any that were obscene or too suggestive. However, today there was a banner advertising Al Gore's new movie. Now I AM offended.

Kidding aside, many of the folks in the last wave of exiles were my friends and I'll miss their input to the site. We lost a great deal of knowledge, skills, and wit when they left. I understand that the mods have to do what they think is best for the site and it's their decision, but I'd like to think the last group would be welcomed back at some later date (on the chance that they'd be willing to return).

Just my 2 cents.

[philipatmaxfour]

forum clean up

many of the folks in the last wave of exiles were my friends and I'll miss their input to the site. We lost a great deal of knowledge, skills, and wit when they left. I understand that the mods have to do what they think is best for the site and it's their decision, but I'd like to think the last group would be welcomed back at some later date (on the chance that they'd be willing to return).

Just my 2 cents.

Please count my 2 cents with Don's

[Rusty-Gunn]

There are others who share info as these banned folks did. They are not banned, nor did they leave. This place will survive.