GMC 2500 vs 1500

[jpswift1]

Hey dzg, that's a nice truck you have! My dad had a F-250 like yours, except it wasn't two tone and that was a great old truck. I like old trucks sooooooooo much better than ANY new 2013 model out there.

[CBass]

It seems like nothing is built the way it should be or was back in the 70's or earlier. A car/truck from that time could cut though a car/truck from today like a knife though butter. They were made by people that were just as tough as the vehicle itself. You didnt see or hear of them calling in sick for work, or thinking about how to make more. They were do'ers, they did what it took to earn more, not make more. Everyone these days think that have earned their pay, let them go back to those time and do the type of work Real Americans did and see how long they last.

Sorry all, I found my soap box.

[Air Bud]

I wouldn't say this is right on topic here, but I love my little baby Tundra that was handed down to me from dad. She's got just enough juice to pull three attex's. and that's all she really needs to do. I do think it would be fantastic to do a swap with a 5.7 from a third gen Tundra. But that would be a rediculous amount of work. But after collage, there is no doubt in my mind that I will purchase a Dodge, with a Cummins. First or second generation preferably, but I'm flexible.
Just putting in my two sense.

[hydromike]

.... But after collage, there is no doubt in my mind

Bud's family, so it's ok for me to snicker at the irony here.

[roblynn]

Happy Holidays 6x6 family. I am here to get your feed back on my next buy. I am looking at getting a GMC Serria but I am stuck on Gas vs Diesel, 1500 vs 2500. I have been looking into which is a better buy for me. I do alot of hauling and a lot of long drives, case in point I'm from NC station in GA and Mel's from IA. So thats just a short look at our holiday travel not to mention when we take the Max's out or with us. So what do you think 6x6 world, Serria 1500 (gas) or 2500 (diesel). I need help tilting the scales in favor of one or the other.
Oh ya thanks Andy for opening my eyes to diesel, thats the reaon for the debat now.lol

i have a new body style gmc 2500hd z71 crew with the 6.0 gaser if your not towing more than 5000 lbs at least 40% of the time just get a half ton.
the 3/4 ton 6.0 gas motors love gas! i get about 15 mpg .
my last truck was a ford ( i was always a ford guy till that truck ) it was an f-350 crew cab dooly 4x4 off road . it had the 6.0 diesel ( total pile of crap motor!!!!!!!!!!!!)

that truck was in the shop once to twice a year and averaged $5000.00 per visit.
the duramax isent as prone to so many probblems and gets vary good economy almost everybody i know gets 20 or better mpg.
i love my 2500 with the gas motor but if i was to do it again i would go with the duramax . my old ford just hurt me to bad at the time and i wasent willing to risk anouther high doller deisel nightmere . so my suggestion is if your towing 5000 or less get a half ton if your going to travel in a 3/4 ton dont even consider a gas motor ,youll have less h.p. less tork, and avridge 5 to 7 mpg less.

[roblynn]

i almost forgot to say, yes if that duramax needs work its going to cost you. almost all duramaxs need injectors around 120,000 miles so keep this in mind! when you owen a deisel you dont ask how much you just say fix it and cry as you hold your butt and drive away in your pritty truck .

[dzg]

i almost forgot to say, yes if that duramax needs work its going to cost you. almost all duramaxs need injectors around 120,000 miles so keep this in mind! when you owen a deisel you dont ask how much you just say fix it and cry as you hold your butt and drive away in your pritty truck .

Thats why i would go with a gasser. Every truck you own (I dont care if its Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Toyota, whatever) is GOING to have problems eventually. A diesel will quickly eat up what little bit you save in fuel the first time it needs work.....and the marginal power difference between a 8.1 and an older duramax, really dont make the MPG worth it.

....and thanks guys for the compliments on my truck.I love it. I paid 2,000 for it and all i have done is change the radiator and rebuild the carb , oh and put in a gas tank.

[roblynn]

Thats why i would go with a gasser. Every truck you own (I dont care if its Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Toyota, whatever) is GOING to have problems eventually. A diesel will quickly eat up what little bit you save in fuel the first time it needs work.....and the marginal power difference between a 8.1 and an older duramax, really dont make the MPG worth it.

....and thanks guys for the compliments on my truck.I love it. I paid 2,000 for it and all i have done is change the radiator and rebuild the carb , oh and put in a gas tank.

i dont know if your looking for a new truck from gm or a (new used truck) but if its new or (i think 08 on ) the 6.0 is the biggest gas option they did away with the 8.1 .

to bad to it was a powerhouse of a motor .yet 8 to 9 mpg at 3 to 4 dollers a gallon for gas the duramax has very few issues the injectors are just worn out by that point and are around 3 grand parts and labor from what i understand talking with freinds that have them.so i think you more than make up in fuel cost what the injectors will run for replacment. and yes maybe on paper the duramax vrs. the 6.0 dosent look huge but when your running across country with a load (especially mountains or long grade pulls) you'll more than notice the power of the duramax
like i said beffor for what my truck cost and the mark up fro the deisel if i was to do again tomarrow i would oppt for the duramax .the 6.0 just dosent cut it with over ten grand hanging off the back in my opinion. p.s. that is a sharp ol'ford ya got there looks pritty clean!

[dzg]

My buddy chuck had a 2001 Chevy 3/4ton with an Allison and a 8.1L, shortbox, club cab with 4.11 gears.

My buddy mikey had an 02 GMC 3/4ton with an Allison, and a Duramax, Shortbox, club cab, with 4.11 gears.

With the same trailer, with the same 2 mud trucks on it, the Duramax had her tounge hanging out and the 8.1 was chugging along.

I cant speak for the 6.0, BUT, ill just take an old 460 (ford) or 454 (chevy) over any of the new engines anyday....

My FAVORITE engine ever built? The 300 I6 Ford.....Cant kill them and will litrally pull anything (slow, but itll do it).

....yes, and thank you for the compliments on the 77.

[roblynn]

01 was allso one of the early years for the duramax under powered and prone to probblems . isuzu has got that motor down pack now and if hes looking for a "new truck " a 454 or 460 c.i. is not an option .

if he wants a new gmc to pull " heavy loads" with the duramax is all gm offers right now . i had 16,000 lbs on my try-axle hydro dump fith wheel behind my 08 sierra 2500hd and i wished i had a duramax at that time !

thank got d.o.t dident pull me over that day, i would still be in the clink.

besides all that, i was a ford guy for alot of years and iv had alot of 460 c.i. (dump trucks,steak bodys) there vary hard on fuel i cant remember getting better than 8 mpg in any one of them empty or loaded.:mad
i think fords 390 was the best v8 cofiguration they made for a truck pull the two barrel and intake and put a four on it and thoughs motors would work!
and yes the old 300 streight six was an exellent motor (then again most inlines are ) all truck motors should be inline' and almost all industrial and agricultural diesels are.

the problem is gm ford and all the other guys would only sell you one truck every 20 years if they were, so we wont see that any time soon.

the draw back to the six is the lack of being a long distance heavy hual motor . when travling knowbody wants to be the guy pulling a grade at 35 mph with his 4ways on being passed by a geo metro doing 70.
i think the old big blocks are underpowerd compared with any diesel being offered by any manufacture out there right now. the up side to them, you can get in your own tool box and fix them without the help of nasa. lol