Electronic Fuel Pump needed

[wheeler]

I found with my new 23 hp engine that it doesn't start right away. It takes alot to get it started but once started during the day it starts mostly the rest of the day real easy. After speaking with a mechanic he had me pull the gas line off of the engine and turn it over. NO gas coming out within the first 30 seconds. He said that I should put in a electric fuel pump. Does anybody else out there run an electric fuel pump on their engine?

[thebuggyman1]

With a fuel tank located above the motor the fuel will gravity feed to the motor mounted pump. If your fuel tank is below the motor, or specifically the fuel pump, the mechanical pump doesn't suck so well. MaxIV's with the motor mounted up high fall into this category.....as do Argo's with the tank under the driver seat.
An electric pump mounted low will help. The reason for the hard starts is the fuel in the carb float bowl tends to evaporate from residual engine heat...and time. Using your choke even in the warm weather should help it start better.

[wheeler]

With the choke on full it doesn't like to start. I have to hold full throttle and let it turn over until it starts (without choke). It then starts and runs great. If I install a Electric Fuel Pump won't there need to be a regulator installed also. I don't want to much pressure going to the carb. With an electric fuel pump I'm guessing I only need 2.5 to 3# pressure at the carb?

[Dozerlarry]

Why not put on one of those bulb pump things like those on outboard tanks? Give it a few squeezes and fire her right on up. Seems like I read on here somewhere that only 1 PSI was needed at the carb.

[wheeler]

Dozerlarry
I believe you are a genius. I shall call you Einstein. You may of just saved me about 80 bucks at the least. Great idea!!! I'm going to try it after I go to a Wedding tomorrow ughhh!

[Dozerlarry]

My friend, donations are accepted to my retirement fund! Actually I'm having the same problem and was going to get one and try it on my Max 4 tomorrow.

[wheeler]

Donation sent. I hope 5 cents will do. I'm close to retiring (5 months) myself. I might be soliciting donations then! Ha ha. Let me know how that works with the bulb idea. I will check back with ya tomorrow.

[Dozerlarry]

Donation sent. I hope 5 cents will do. I'm close to retiring (5 months) myself. I might be soliciting donations then! Ha ha. Let me know how that works with the bulb idea. I will check back with ya tomorrow.

Hey 5 cents is a start!!!! Got my bulb pump at Wally World (only place that had them) and put it on with all new fuel lines. Gave it a squeeze or two (it got tight just like on an outboard) and she fired right on up. Oh yeah, the pump was around $20. Will send your nickel back to help.

LB

[LarryW]

I had a bulb pump on my tank trainer with fuel on front and motor on back the line was long. It worked good with the bulb. Hope it works for you too.

[Dozerlarry]

another point I thought of, if your engine mount fuel pump goes out the back seat rider can pump the bulb and get you in. He (or she) may not go riding with you again but it beats a long walk.

[wheeler]

Sooo. Make my wife ride in the back all the time your saying. Good idea! Love it.

[wheeler]

I put one in and Nah, it didn't work. Gotta check some more things out make sure nothin is plugged.

[LarryW]

With the choke on full it doesn't like to start. I have to hold full throttle and let it turn over until it starts (without choke). It then starts and runs great. If I install a Electric Fuel Pump won't there need to be a regulator installed also. I don't want to much pressure going to the carb. With an electric fuel pump I'm guessing I only need 2.5 to 3# pressure at the carb?

After re reading your situation, I think your float might be sticky. Sounds like its flooding out when sitting. Holding throttle wide open when starting is what you do if you flooded it out. It allows more air in to help lean out the situation sort of speak. Does it have black smoke when you do start it?

[wheeler]

No black smoke, but that makes sense. This is a brand new engine so it seems odd that the float would be stuck. I wonder if I could just tap on the carb to see if that might loosen it. But, after it starts and gets warm it runs like a top. Starts immediately when you go to start it after its been started and run for a minute or so. Hmmm?

[wheeler]

Squeeze bulb didn't work. Any mechanic out there have any ideas? I can start it right up when it's warm no problem, without choke of course. But leave it set for a half hour or so it won't start unless you hold the throttle wide open, turn it over for about 7 seconds or so and it starts right up. Why does it start when it's warm with no problem, but when it sits idle for half an hour or so, do you have to open the throttle wide open? I installed a new inline fuel filter, it's glass and I can see it's filled with gas. Don't quite get it. Of course there are alot of things I don't understand like...black holes and how a dragonfly can fly upside down but,
anyway all ideas will be thoroughly investigated and tried. Thanks Dudes and Dudessess.