hp rateing of a kawasaki 440fc

[mad_max_500cc]

i was digging in my parents garage and came across 2 of my old fc 440 motors i had kicking around one is a kawasaki 440 fancooled out of a mid 70s artic cat panther 72 or 74 dont rember and a mistery 440 that was in my max when i first got it it was a rig job installation and the thing barely ran ill get some pictures up soon maby some one can identify it for me .... anyway does anybody rember what the 440 kawasaki had for hp? since my 600 polaris fugi lc deal fell threw ive been concedering a 440 again!

[argohunter]

Need the engine model number

Can you tell me the engine model number? It should look something like this: T1A440S1B. I will tell you up front that Arctic Cat never published the horsepower ratings for the Kawasaki engines they used back then. It was for legal reasons. Warning on this engine, the cylinder farthest away from the fan always ran hotter than the other side. The chrome cylinder bore lining had a tendancy to flake off because of the temps. Unless the cylinders were fogged real well and ocassionally turned over by hand since being stored it could be a problem. They also had problems with the center crank seal going bad causing the engine to bog down when accelerating and eventually not run or barely run because of the oil fouling.

Let me know what that number is and I'll check to see what I have on it. I'm thinking 42 hp on the f/c 440 that was in the heavy Panther.

That engine was great when it was new and if it ran well and could be reved up to high rpms to keep that oil fouling to a minimum.

[mad_max_500cc]

im hopeing to get back over there today and grab that engine and snap some picts of the mistery engine as well.... i have herd of the center seal problem and was going to pull the head off and check things out inside anyway thanks for the heads up!!!!!! if i rember right the kawasaki had no spark when i stored it and the coils ohmed out ok. ill get back to ya with the numbers thanks

[argohunter]

im hopeing to get back over there today and grab that engine and snap some picts of the mistery engine as well.... i have herd of the center seal problem and was going to pull the head off and check things out inside anyway thanks for the heads up!!!!!! if i rember right the kawasaki had no spark when i stored it and the coils ohmed out ok. ill get back to ya with the numbers thanks

I would be interested in what you see inside that top end and the bottom end too. Let me know if you would.

[jpswift1]

Hey Madmax, I remember looking at an old Max brochure and the Kawasaki 440 was rated at 38 HP with a top speed of 45+ I believe.

[mad_max_500cc]

you were real close on that # it is TIB440SIA the more i think abought it 72 rings a bell it spins over nicely now i have to find what i did with the exaust manifold hope i can dig it up somewhere..... ill snap some picts when i pull the head off maby tommrow or wensday... got some picts of the mistery motor waiting for my friend to email them to me ill post them soon.. many thanks....eric

[mad_max_500cc]

jeff i think this one looks a little different i looked at an engine manual for the kawasaki motor at ri ......close but different

[jpswift1]

jeff i think this one looks a little different i looked at an engine manual for the kawasaki motor at ri ......close but different

Eric, my guess would be that the newer Kawasaki 440 that RI used had the CDI ignition. Either way, that will be one fast Max when you're done with it.

[mad_max_500cc]

i got the picts of the mistery motor up over in the gallery check them out and see if you can identify it? i dont have a clue what it is and it dosent have any markings that i can see unless they are under the shroud somewhere was told it was a 440 by the last owner.

[Don]

BSE made engines in (I think) the late 60s or early 70s for Moto-ski and maybe some other snowmobiles. I'm not sure of the ratings or history but they always looked suspiciously like Rotax to me.

[mad_max_500cc]

i know what you mean especialy with the shroud off it does resemble a rotax a bit thanks for the info don! it wont spin over any more (im guessing rust in the cyl) and im shure parts for sutch an engine are impossible to find as well!!!

[x.l.r.8]

The condensed service data:
T1A440S1 bore 68mm, stroke 60mm, 436cc, Cooling type Axil Fan, 35hp@6500
Compaired to the
T1A440F2 bore 68mm, stroke 60mm, 436cc, Cooling type free air, 45hp@7500
What a difference a carb and loss of cooling fan makes!!!!
The T1B and T1C quite rightly show no horsepower specs
The only sled listed with T1B440s1 is the 1973 Arctic Cat PM-440, WDA-31 Walborough carb (single) and had a St. Lawrence Clutch.
Also not CDi but points.
headtorque figure 16 ft.-lbs
Will try and locate pictures to compaire with mine here.
Adie

[x.l.r.8]

Should mention manual came with my 1974 Cheetah and pretty much the same engine is going into my Jiger with the CDi being the only real difference. If you need any more information just ask.

[x.l.r.8]

P.S. you can get parts from Royal Distributing.

[mad_max_500cc]

thanks for all the info i will dig into the engine this weekend and snap some picts im still gonna keep my eyes open for something with a little bit more power and sleads are abought to get cheep being the end of the season!