20hp honda in a argo

[duck 690]

im trying to put a honda in my argo the motor mounts arent the same as the kohler i took out im a welder and can make it work but the real problem is the old clutch wont fit the hondabut the honda has a clutch on it will that clutch work with the clutch on the tranny or will i have to change that one out as well

[amphibious drew]

Was it a 2-stroke Kohler or a 4-stroke in it originally?

[duck 690]

It was a 4 stroke it was a kohler 17hp v twine the argo is a 8i/c

[amphibious drew]

What clutch is on your honda. The driven clutch should be fine. As long as your not running some dinky gocart clutch, you may be alright with what's on the honda.

[msafi65]

Measure the distance between the faces of the clutches right at the crankshaft part of both clutches. They should be within 1/16 inch to be compatible with the driven and stock width belt I believe that older one ran a 1 3/8 inch wide belt. If the honda has a 1 inch shaft I have bored the Argo clutches that thread on and had a keyway broached in them to fit onto newer engines. Was a lot of work to save purchasing a new drive clutch.

[duck 690]

My engine is a 20hp out of a land pride trekker side by side the belt on the side by side is about a 1/4 inch narrower than the argo belt should I use the argo belt or get a belt that is the same length as the argo belt and narrow as the belt off the sided by side and swap the clutch on my argo tranny to the one off the side by side tranny

[Tomo]

HI
use clutches as a matched pair
eg both argo original clutches 4 stroke ok [must be similar in hp to the Honda for swap to be effective ]
Using the original clutches allows original style of belt [width ] but the centre to centre distance of the shafts needs to be the same also
Mixing/Installing another type or style of clutch will interfere with how the transmission changes,most likely a poor shifting outcome .
Remachine original drive clutch or purchase replacement that is a match for your driven

tomo

[duck 690]

Thank for the info I'll see if I can get a clutch for my project

[Noel Woods]

I agree with Tomo. Matched clutches are the way to go. Rigging or milling an exhisting clutch can work, and I have done it and made it work but the shifting wasn't perfect.
A few years back I picked up a Max4 and it had a comet unit out of a small go cart, it was a dog and could barely mud at all, It was only after I switched clutches that the machine performed as designed.

[duck 690]

Should I use the clutches from the side by side the motor came out of the only way to get the argo clutch to work would be to try to adapet the argo clutch to the honda motors shaft

[Noel Woods]

Its not going to hurt to try. I'm not sure it will work perfectly, but you never know.

[Tomo]

hi ,
The side by side clutches will most likely have fast up shift and slow down shift characteristics compared and opposite to what a 6x6 needs .This will be notiicable in hard tough conditions mud sand snow etc .The wrong clutches will give poor shifting and disappointing performance .

U can try these sxs clutches but beaware of there potential limitations

tomo

[duck 690]

The sxs had high and low range in it thatMay or may not matter I think I'll try it on a test run when I get the motor I'm before. I put the top half back on if I don't like the performance I'll see if I can get a clutch that will work with the argo clutch and fit the honda shaft thanks for everyone help and info if anyone else has any info please let me know I always welcome info when I'm dealing with things I'm not sure about

[Nubs]

get er' movin' with what ya got and go from there, both units were setup for low end torque

[duck 690]

Well first off I'd like to thank everyone for the info and secondly I hate to say it because I'm a mechanical maintance tec at a steelmill but I'm a victim of cheap tools the calipers I used were cheap china made junk that were reading wrong I found this out when my 9 year old wanted to learn how to use them so I showed him on the Hondas shaft and the read 1.198 so I checked the kohler shaft and they read 1.145 so I got out my sterrit calipers and the turned out to be 1 inch shafts on both motors so my argo clutch will work again thanks. To all those who helped me