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[klogtruck]

what can kill it? I put on a new coil and now it's dead. done fine for about a week. was adjusting the carb and it stoped, so i check the spark and there was none. It has current to the coil. any help guy's. thank's.

[LarryW]

I would first look to make sure the ground kill wire isnt shorting out anywhere. If possible unhook it right from the coil and check it. If it does start you may need to carefully yank the plug wire off or choke it to kill the engine. Not sure on what engine you have but if still nothing and it is equiped with pionts then I would go check them. What engine is in it?

Larry

[LarryW]

Ok, I looked and you profile says k134. I never heard of that so I am guessing it is a k341 which is the 16hp. If it is really a k134 then nevermind all this, lol. The k341 has external points mounted off the block inside a little box/cover, located under the carb toward pto/crank side. If unhooking the shutoff ground wire didnt work open up that cover and check them. Make sure they are clean and gapped right.

Larry

[ygmir]

also the condenser, again, if it has points........
Make sure the coil is getting voltage in.......
does this model use a resistor in the voltage supply line? If so, it may have gone, or, if it's supposed to and it somehow got bypassed, you can burn the coil if it's not made for constant 12V.......
And, of course, the obvious, which is what I usually miss, a bad wire to or from.

good luck
Henry

[klogtruck]

spark 2

ok guy's sorry. It is a 341 kohler. point's are ok. cleaned and reset cap. It does have fire to the coil. (noob here so be gentle) lol. not sure about the shutoff ground, Im guessing, but does it come from the key switch to the coil? and it has a condenser, not sure if it is good. thank's for responding.

[klogtruck]

resistor? not sure on that one.i'll see if it has one . thanks again larry and henry. Joe

[LarryW]

Well I believe the k341 is the same as a k321 which is the 14hp. If so then it doesnt have a resistor. You say you have power to the coil. So the other end is the negitive side. There should be a wire coming from the points to the negitive side of coil and another wire on the negitive to the condeser. I was thinking wrong with the ground kill wire. You setup should shut down with cutting the power to the coil, so that kill switch ground wire doesnt apply to you.

[klogtruck]

here's what i have. ck_2008/myargo016.jpg[/IMG]

[klogtruck]

sorry for the big pic.still working on how to do this. fun being the noob. lol

[klogtruck]

eng.

[ygmir]

looks like a condenser in the pic, to me.......

As simple as these ignitions are, it might be best to just start at the beginning and check for power/function down the line.

Power to the coil?
Power to the points from neg coil?
wire from neg coil to points intact?
Manually open and close the points and see if they spark.
Condensers are cheap, just replace it.
have the above, and, no spark out at the coil, it'd seem it's bad........
Coils can work when cold and fail as they heat and build resistance.......

Then, if you have power out at coil, plug wires.........

That's about all there is there, IMHO, to check......

Timing is another matter, but, won't effect whether you have spark or not.....

Just some random thoughts,
good luck
Henry

[klogtruck]

thank's henry. I have all the above except spark. coil has gone bad IMO, it's not that old, maybe 3 week's. going to get a new coil and see what happen's. I'll post back in a few day's.

[ygmir]

if the coil went bad that quickly, you might want to see if it requires a resistor and doesn't have one........
If they need a resistor, they're made to run on 7 or so volts but start with 12, and, if given 12 constant, can overheat and burn out.......
or, a loose wire causing sparking and voltage spikes overloading the coil wires....

Just a couple of thoughts........

good luck
Henry

[klogtruck]

done

replaced the coil and condenser, and it fired righ up. got the coil with the built in resistor. thank's for all the help. you guy's rock.

[philipatmaxfour]

Got Spark

replaced the coil and condenser, and it fired righ up. got the coil with the built in resistor. thank's for all the help. you guy's rock.