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    Hello all! I'm new to the site and new to the world of the 6x6, but I've been riding and rebuilding bikes and atv's since the age of 11. I just thought I would chime in and share my experiance in getting my max up and going.

    So, I brought home my 2000 Max IV a few days ago with an 18hp vangaurd twin. I knew it had sat for some time and had 4 year old gas in it, but it still ran and I was able to drive it on and off the trailer and over into the field across the street. I had put 4 gallons of fresh gas in it (plus a bottle of HEET), thinking it would improve it's running condition. Well, it still felt WAAY underpowered. I had to run the choke half open just to keep it going, so I was sure it had carb issues. It would hardly even turn without stopping and almost dieing. So, I pulled the top of the carb off and it was surprisingly clean! I went ahead and blew everything out and put it back together hoping it would help, but it really didn't. So, next I dropped the tank. It was LOADED with dirt and junk, so I figured surely it was clogging the supply and starving the engine for fuel. I cleaned it all out, blew the line out, and put her back together. You guessed it; no difference. SO, I thought, "Maybe the chains are too tight?" Got them all checked out; no problems there. Well, after hours of screwing with it I'm standing there scratching my head while it idles and I think to myself, "Did I ever check the spark plugs???" I reach down and pull the cap off the rear facing cylinder and the idle doesn't change one bit. Sure enough, I put it back on and pull the other side and it dies. After all my fiddling I found it was only running on one cylinder! I put a plug in it and it smoked for about 30 seconds while it burned all the junk out of that cylinder. I went for a test ride and WOW!! What a difference! I was starting to worry that it was just a dog and had no guts, but it's a beast and a blast to drive now!

    Anyways, the lesson here is to always check the simple obvious stuff first. This is something I've always known, but this was definetly a reminder...
    Joe

    2000 MaxIV
    1969 F-250 Crew Cab 4x4
    2000 Jeep Cherokee


    "If some is good and more is better then too much is just enough."

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    ROTFLMAO ,as i was reading your story , i was beginning to think that your fuel shut off valve was partialy closed and starving the unit ,i automaticaly thought you had checked the plugs LOL
    am i to understand you are an OLD Ford fan ??
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    • #3
      That's better than my story. Spent $600 on vanguard parts, higher compression, etc, and didn't change plugs.. I thought they looked ok well they did look ok and would have run another 20,000 miles in a car, but the relative small output of the briggs coils needs plugs more often.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Robinhood02 View Post
        ROTFLMAO ,as i was reading your story , i was beginning to think that your fuel shut off valve was partialy closed and starving the unit ,i automaticaly thought you had checked the plugs LOL
        am i to understand you are an OLD Ford fan ??
        Well, the engine only has about 10 hours of run time on it, so I thought FOR SURE that the plugs would be ok. When I removed the bad one it came out in two pieces so I'm assuming it got whacked or something while sitting for all these years.

        To answer your second question, YOU BET! I'm a big old Ford guy. You may have seen the pic in my intro post, but I've got a 69 F250 crew cab 4x4 that I will be buried with, plus I've owned a whole mess of 60's and 70's Fords in the past. My first car was a 63 Fairlane 500 that got me hooked.
        Joe

        2000 MaxIV
        1969 F-250 Crew Cab 4x4
        2000 Jeep Cherokee


        "If some is good and more is better then too much is just enough."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Roger S View Post
          That's better than my story. Spent $600 on vanguard parts, higher compression, etc, and didn't change plugs.. I thought they looked ok well they did look ok and would have run another 20,000 miles in a car, but the relative small output of the briggs coils needs plugs more often.
          That's good to know; I haven't messed with too many small engines like this so I'll keep that in mind. I just went out and bought a new pair of these fancy "E3" plugs, so we'll see how they do.
          Joe

          2000 MaxIV
          1969 F-250 Crew Cab 4x4
          2000 Jeep Cherokee


          "If some is good and more is better then too much is just enough."

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          • #6
            i fought with the 17 kohlen in my old argo for weeks. carb rebuild. cleaned the tank, new lines and filter.... plugs looked great, but it was running terrible, and would end up with fuel in the oil. finally threw a set of plugs in and she ran great!
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