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    Hey guys I purchased a 99 conquest a couple months ago,I was changing a front axle and bearing and happened to check the oil while I was standing there,and my level was a couple inches above full line!!! So it was full with gas!so I called my buddy immediatly and he reminded me that I had it parked on a pretty steep hill for about 3 weeks and said the float in the carb was probly open and drained gas down into the motor.I drained the oil twice and will monitor my oil closely from now on,so what I'm asking is his theory possible or am I looking at a more serious issue?any other opinions or theories would be greatly appreciated thanks
    Last edited by SixGunNick; 12-01-2011, 11:30 AM.
    99 Argo Conquest.....ERIE icefishing machine

  • #2
    It's possible....
    My first guess would have been bad fuel pump, but I don't know what the Kawasaki fuel pump looks like.
    Several things could cause it though.
    I would guess a stuck float needle would have flooded the motor before doing that....but watch it close

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    • #3
      His theory is possible. If it happens again you probably do have a bad float needle valve in the carberator.

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      • #4
        Ok guys thanks,its kind of scary cuz I broke the bank hard to get this machine and I love it I don't want anything to happen to it(at least not until I get to play with it a bit!)thanks for the replies and maybe ill have the carb rebuilt cuz it starts a lil rough sometimes anyways
        99 Argo Conquest.....ERIE icefishing machine

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        • #5
          Originally posted by thebuggyman1 View Post
          It's possible....
          My first guess would have been bad fuel pump, but I don't know what the Kawasaki fuel pump looks like.
          Several things could cause it though.
          I would guess a stuck float needle would have flooded the motor before doing that....but watch it close
          I believe the Conquest had a electric pump remotely mounted,but I could be mistaken the wife is always telling me Iam wrong.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by North Country Tough View Post
            I believe the Conquest had a electric pump remotely mounted,but I could be mistaken the wife is always telling me Iam wrong.
            Well I wouldn't want to contradict your wife or anything so I'll say your wrong, but your not.

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            • #7
              if im right which is never it does have an elec. fuel pump mounted close to tank mine was under seat but it also has an electric fuel cutoff that funny looking thing on the side of the carb with a wire hanginging out of it .But if you wait rockdr will tell you for sure .I just rebuilt mine machine .so i may be wrong

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              • #8
                Yes, that is an electronic fuel shutoff. There is a little pin in there that fits into the main jet. Power on/ Key on pulls this pin back, allowing fuel into the float bowl. My personal opinion is that they are a PITA. I have removed the ones on my machines ( cut pin off with Sidecutters ). As a disclaimer, I have to say that I don't recommend doing as I have, but in the same breath I will say that I don't know of any machines around here that still have this particular device functioning. It may be that yours has been tampered with as well.

                I'm thinking you have a sticky float too. Carb is very east to rebuild, maybe someone can link you to my carb rebuild vid ( can't do it from my iPhone)

                RD

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                • #9
                  Local John Deer dealers have the parts for the engines. You can check there.
                  Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways , cigar in one hand, whiskey in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO, what a ride!!!"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rock Doctor View Post
                    Yes, that is an electronic fuel shutoff. There is a little pin in there that fits into the main jet. Power on/ Key on pulls this pin back, allowing fuel into the float bowl. My personal opinion is that they are a PITA. I have removed the ones on my machines ( cut pin off with Sidecutters ). As a disclaimer, I have to say that I don't recommend doing as I have, but in the same breath I will say that I don't know of any machines around here that still have this particular device functioning. It may be that yours has been tampered with as well.

                    I'm thinking you have a sticky float too. Carb is very east to rebuild, maybe someone can link you to my carb rebuild vid ( can't do it from my iPhone)

                    RD
                    Since this is the everybody is wrong thread,RD i think the purpose of that solenoid pin main jet dealeo is to prevent engine run on when hot by cutting flow thru the main jet,that said i usually speak before kicking the brain in gear.N.C.T

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                    • #11
                      The Kubota WG750s (three cylinder gas engines) have the same solenoid on the bottom of the carburetor. The pin engages into the main jet and shuts off all fuel to the engine when 12VDC is cut. On these particular engines, the goal is to stop the engines from dieseling which, as I understand it, was an issue when these were first developed (lots of peak hp usage....) I disabled the one on Big 5 and on the carb going in the Swamp Fox. Your engine is a bit different, but 5's engine almost never gets over 170 degrees. Not much issue with dieseling there.
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                      • #12
                        That dang solenoid. It's to prevent afterfire, well, here, read this.
                        I have had tons of problems with it and I've even paid money to replace it. Last time I had to open the carb to clean that thing I got home and researched it. Next time it comes out. I would even like to find a short bolt to take it's place.

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                        • #13
                          Lol, I've had people tell me that it's designed to shut the fuel off in the event of a rollover. In any event, my experience is that they close off the main jet when power is off, and allow fuel through when power is on. Experience also tells me they don't always work as intended.

                          If your machine stalls for no apparent reason one day, and you can't figure out why you have no fuel flow....... This would be the first thing to check.

                          RD

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                          • #14
                            Gas in the oil is very common on the Kawasaki. People don't do any maintenance to them so the oil is always overfull with gas. It's best to change the oil on a regular basis, even more so than on other similar V-twins. The Kaw usually lasts a long time even with it's long list of known issues. It's crap for an engine compared to the Briggs or Kohler.
                            Last edited by Mike; 12-02-2011, 06:31 PM. Reason: edited post to adhere to site rules
                            Everybody dies, but not everybody lives.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Rock Doctor View Post
                              Lol, I've had people tell me that it's designed to shut the fuel off in the event of a rollover.
                              That's what the float is for. It's upstream of the vent holes.

                              Originally posted by Rock Doctor View Post
                              ... Experience also tells me they don't always work as intended.
                              At very inopportune times. Like when everybody is watching.

                              The good of this is how impressed they are when you whip out the carb, free up the pintel, and it works.

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