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  • Adair "Belted" Tracks Chewing up some ice

    This was from last weekend, when I went out to put my Cabin up for the winter. It was supposed to be an overnight trip, that ended up lasting almost 4 days. It was a bit of a Comedy of Errors that kept me there, Snow, Cold, Icy Hills, and of course my dogs decided to go for a 9hr walkabout as I was about to leave (That kept me there for an extra night........ Damn Dogs)
    While the dogs were out chasing Snow Fleas, I decided to ride out to my truck, just to see if the little Bast@$#s were out there waiting for me.
    No luck of course, but I did manage to get a little vid with my cell phone on the way back looking for them.
    Was wishing I had a Video Camera for this trip, it would have been awesome. My IKAM is missing in action and my good Headcam is a little BUSTED

    These new Adair Tracks were shredding the ice in the deep holes and in the creek, but like other Plastic Tracks, they can use a little help on icy hills and rocks. Some kind of traction enhancers are needed.



    RD

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    hey RD do you think maybe some sort of bolt or ice spike through the rubber belt in between the kleets/ grousers? not to many to perforate the belt between kleets say maybe two centered between kleets. long enough to give some bite in addition to the kleets but shorter so as to not interfer with the slidability of the kleets on pavement or firmer surfaces. I'm a track guy and chomping at the bit to get a set of these adair tracks but there is a weakness that is inherent to the material the kleets are made out of in certain conditions. the idea of mounting a piece of rubber hose to every other kleet is a good one and seems to overcome many of the problems that are encountered but do you think they would help in the snow and ice. I'm trying to think of an enhancement that won't interfer with the sliding quality of the plastic but also lend some bite in conditions where the kleets actually sink into the surface being ridden on.

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    • #3
      I think those could be very good ideas. My experience with the Chained Adair Tracks has indicated that it doesn't take much to make the tracks better in ice/snow ( 1 ice cleat on every 5th Grousers has proven to be enough for my riding conditions ). I'm unsure how much the rubber hose would help in snow, but suspect that it wouldn't hurt to try it. I'm pretty sure that the boys at Adair are working on some ideas.
      When I first tried these tracks I was a little concerned about how easy the were sliding sideways, but once I scuffed up the Grousers faces, they started working better...... Much like the chained tracks. I think that a creatively designed ice cleat made for the larger Grousers will help enough.
      My next concern is how these narrower tracks will float in deep snow. Obviously they will not float as well as a wider track, but I'm thinking that they will work for my conditions. So far, I'm happy with how they are working out, I just wish I had ordered them sooner so I could have tried them out more in the Summer/Fall conditions.

      RD

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      • #4
        Is the rubber belting too thick for plain old picks, like for a snow mobile track? Maybe 2 dozen ice pics and you could be set!
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        ATV = Alaska Terain Vehicle

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        • #5
          cool vid RD.i gotta get me set of those tracks.i think they are the cats ass.

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          • #6
            I would think that adding additional plastic segments to the rubber belts would enhance its floatation therefore giving better performance in deep snow .

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            • #7
              Originally posted by spookum View Post
              Is the rubber belting too thick for plain old picks, like for a snow mobile track? Maybe 2 dozen ice pics and you could be set!
              1/2" Thick, I think Snowmobile Picks would work fine, as long as they are strong enough not to bend. They would have to be long picks to make it through the Belt and reach out past the grousers. I believe there a number of ways to add traction.
              Originally posted by juggernaut View Post
              I would think that adding additional plastic segments to the rubber belts would enhance its floatation therefore giving better performance in deep snow .
              True,
              Personally, I'm not headed in that direction with these particular tracks, I have plenty of wider Snow Tracks, these are intended for summer mostly.

              RD

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              • #8
                Doc, I am impressed that your machine can even move in that icey mess. As always great video!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mightymaxIV View Post
                  Doc, I am impressed that your machine can even move in that icey mess. As always great video!
                  At the times where I was really breaking up the ice was pretty impressive, the tracks seemed to have a good conection to the ground. Climbing the icy hills and out of the ice holes was a bit tricky at times. The best part was that in 65kms, I didn't use my winch at all, Some "Creative Driving" at times, but no winch.

                  RD

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                  • #10
                    Last edited by Model Citizen; 07-13-2016, 07:47 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by plott hound View Post
                      cool vid RD.i gotta get me set of those tracks.i think they are the cats ass.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Model Citizen View Post
                        That was a cool video, RD. Snow all ready? You get those long winters like we get those long summers. We'll be looking forward to your winter videos.

                        Bridget
                        Brrrrrr, it's been snowing since Thursday, and forcast is for another few days. Some drifts are a couple feet deep here around work right now. Not to worry though, most of it should be gone by the end of May.

                        RD

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                        • #13
                          And what Plot Hound does with his cat....is his business.......

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                          • #14
                            Time to revive this one.
                            Today was the firs time I've had a chance to ride since I started this thread. It's warmed up here, and the kids wanted out. I reciently received a couple boxes of goods from the guys at Adair, time to check things out. I headed for the shop, and installed these bad boys.
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                            These are an early design, after talking to Tim, I understand he has already improved on them.

                            Anyway, I hammered them on in about an hour and a half, loaded the kids up and headed to the sliding hill. Don't have pics from that trip, but everything worked very well. I had no issues on the ice or compact snow, climbed the hill loaded with kids and sleds for hours. We were the envy of the hill, I didn't even know most of the kids that climbed into the machines with us.

                            I was checking out the markes in the ice in my driveway after.

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                            Never had much time to go play in deep stuff, I'll get to that later

                            RD

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                            • #15
                              sounds like you guys had a ball. That's what it's all about. I can picture the kids. Having an argo would have been the "ultimate" when I was a kid.

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