Just FYI Adair Argo Sales now makes the rubber belted 14.5" tracks to go over 25x12x9tires. I was wanting their 14.5" set up for my soon to be 2011 750 HDI but was going to have to buy new tires and wheels (24x10x8's) to use them. I called and talked with Tim yesterday and he informed me they now make the above tracks to go over 25x12x9's. That made my day because that means a big savings for myself and others wanting to run Adair's 14.5" tracks on their 25x12x9's. The tracks are not listed on their website yet but I assume they soon will be.
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good to know!Alaska floating atvs group on face book. Fixing help and trail rides!!!!!
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85ish Argo 8x8 geo metro engine, hdi axles and 3 bearings per axle.
78 ford bronco... 460 lockers.... "Alaskan tow vehicle"
ATV = Alaska Terain Vehicle
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Originally posted by gokorn1 View PostI would be interested on knowing how these tracks fair up here. I see plenty of pudding like mud videos but not to many in the swamps
Doug has a lot of videos of his machine with Adair tracks in his swamp.
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I like the look of the belted and shackle tracks. They look really tough with the thicker crossers. They've gotta be at least an inch thick with a pretty tall cleat the way they're cut. I'm still not sure if they're HDPE or UHMW, as I've heard both terms used.
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Originally posted by Buzz View PostI like the look of the belted and shackle tracks. They look really tough with the thicker crossers. They've gotta be at least an inch thick with a pretty tall cleat the way they're cut. I'm still not sure if they're HDPE or UHMW, as I've heard both terms used.
the adair grouser material is a custom blend of reprocessed UHMW which we buy from a mill that adds a little higher than normal amount of carbon (for UV stability in outdoor applications) and blends it with other recycled plastic (environmentally responsible, less expensive, and slightly more rigid) for us
the thickness of each grouser on our older and more common track designs (and also our current 18.5", 21", and 23" snow tracks) that are built with through hardened chain is 1" (thick) and lug height is about 1.25" tall at the center of the tire, depending on the particular tire and application (25" tire applications typically lack fender clearance and so lug height is slightly less, and in a few other applications we have designed it to be slightly more)
the newer generation narrow (14.5") wide designs that are built with half of an inch thick 4 ply rubber belting have individual grousers that are machined out of 1.5" thick material....the heavy duty metal shackle track designs (for machines like the MAX II and also some very large and heavy applications or abusive applications) also are 1.5" thick
you have probably heard other speak of older designs that were build from different materials....we have built about a dozen different steel cleat track designs including the new FAT TRACKS (dual tire / single track), and we have tested many different types of plastic over the past 6 years...there are a few of the older track designs that were built from PVC, ABS, and HDPE but were built in very limited quantity for and during initial testing purposes
take care
tim
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Lol...your very perceptive, and that's a very intelegent observation...all thickness of UHMW are very strong and abrasion resistant and are typically regarded as unbreakable...a similar application are modern snowmobile skis which survive an amazing amount of flexing and abuse...we were always limited to 1" thicknesses in the past due to the weight of the sheets and particular tool designs...most companies that do custom machining seem to be limited to safe lifting weights of the sheet material and so 1" seemed to always be our limit... This last year we got a new CNC milling table that is much larger and that has increased our capabilities to the point that 1.5" is no longer a problem but it is still very hard on bits and is not an easy material to cut through especially at this thickness
Great talking to you, and thank you for the kind words...
:-). Tim
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Talked with Mike at Adair Argo yesterday, he says Tim is working on a winter kit to accompany the 14.5" wide tracks. This would save a guy money by not buying an additional wider winter track set up like the Argo 18" rubber tracks or the 20" Bolduc tracks. I would imagine this kit will look something like the winter kit beaver dam argo sells. A very inexpensive but efficient way to widen your tracks.Last edited by akranger72; 02-27-2013, 02:48 PM.
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