All UHMW Escargo-style track available soon

[Buzz]

Beaver Dam is offering an all-UHMW track
contact them for more info

over 24" tires (frontier and HDI) = 85 lbs per side
over 25" tires = adds just a couple pounds

[North Country Tough]

Thanks Buzz thats a nice looking piece.

[ExtremelyOutThere]

Beaver Dam Argo is the dealer of Escargo track systems in the USA and can custom make the UHMW track to fit any tire, in any width, with spacers or without. The tracks weigh about 85 lbs for an 8x8 and will climb you out of the open water and up onto the ice if you fall through with your Argo. They make MAX tracks, Mudd-Ox tracks etc.

[mightymaxIV]

Nothing but a direct copy of the Adair belted design.

[mrtlc]

Escargo had this design alot earlier .

[mudbug3]

Nice looking track...I'm sure Adair is flattered ....looks just like some of the early prototypes that adair built...can't see where the performance will be any better than the antique ESCargo design and it looks as though they have retained many of the basic design flaws of the ESCargo track... but the change of material should be a big improvement in weight and less likely to damage or tear up the machine when they fall off

[Beeman]

I always thought UHMW would be a good material for tracks... and now to make my own design...

[amphibious drew]

I am not going to make any judgments on these tracks until we see them in action on a few members machines, but my personal feeling is any competition in manufacturing machines, parts, or accessories, is a good thing for hobbyists. It only brings the cost of goods down and ensures that manufactures are doing adequate research and development before sending a product to market.

[mudbug3]

I am not going to make any judgments on these tracks until we see them in action on a few members machines, but my personal feeling is any competition in manufacturing machines, parts, or accessories, is a good thing for hobbyists. It only brings the cost of goods down and ensures that manufactures are doing adequate research and development before sending a product to market.

Good point. I called Beaver Dam Argo to check on the price of the rubber belted tracks with UHMW grousers and then asked about the price it would cost to fit an Argo Frontier 6x6. I was quoted a price of $2,500. Adair Argo sales uses a 1.5" inch, UHMW Grouser that extends more than half way down the side wall of the tire to prevent the Adair tracks from walking off of the tire for $2,500. In contrast , Beaver Dam Argo only uses one inch grousers and with no visible grouser side wrap on the tires that I can see. Adair Argo sales are now on their 12th generation of tracks, and are always looking for improvements to bring their tracks to another level of improvement. Competition is good if you can buy a comparable product cheaper and --->with the same quality <----, but this is'nt the case I see with the Beaver dam , UHMW, rubber belted tracks. In my opinion you are taking a step backwards to buy a track that won't work as well, and for the same price in cost

[Buzz]

track style is completely different. The escargo style tracks are by far the most resistant to falling off. They basically do not and will not fall off in any situation. Both track styles can be made with 1.5" material. Both tracks utilize grousers that function as both the cleat and guide at the same time. The Adair has movable guides (because the belting is at tread level), while the other (escargo style) has crossers that can move...at the tread level...while the guides (affixed on the elevated-belt) are extremely stable and prevent the track from falling off

[Old Tucker]

I myself will be looking for a good set of tracks. But what to buy A chev or a ford. Chev lovers say they are the best and ford lovers say they are.
I have been running the modified plastic argo track. And given the right snow, I would say they are very reliable, And I have not lost a tire or track yet. {BUT} If I go from low elevation to high elevation with a big temp change the track becomes a snow ball. And you do not go anywhere. All the trips I take I start out in a about two feet of wet snow and end up in ten to fifteen feet of dry cold powder snow.
I do not care about the swimming or mud ability of the tracks We just need a good track for changing snow conditions,
Some say the adair track is the best others say the escargo track is the best. It,s like the old ford and chev fight.
All in all I would like a good track without braking the bank/ But then again you get what you pay for.
Tracks will be updated and changed, improved, as time go,s by

[chefden]

ram tough lol

[mightymaxIV]

Does this track design require a axle extension? More expense, more wear and tear on the machine.


Buzz-Adair tracks have grousers that attack mud and swamp at every angle, these tracks don't even have any thing on the side to attack mud lanes or river banks at different angles, YOU CAN SAY what ever you want, but it only takes one look to see which track will perform better.

[mrtlc]

I'd sure like to see some vidio of the new Escarge UHMW tracks pulling an Argo out on the ice. I don't think the UHMW will have the bite on ice like the steel does. Maybe with some carbide sled studs, but I don't think just plain they'll get enough bite.

[kghills]

Buzz, tracks for our 6x6 and 8x8 AATVs are cool. I always wondered why it took so long for the more diverse types of tracks we are seeing now to come to market. I use my Max in mud, snow, swamps, woods, rivers, dirt and ice. I would like to say I use my Max only for recreational use but considering it has had a log splitter or trailer full of wood hooked to it for the last 6-8 weeks I guess that's not really true. I have marveled over tracked vehicles for years. Cushmans, Nodwels, Tuckers, Bombadies, they're all really cool but seem somewhat limited in their scope of use. I have never had the Escargo style tracks but have looked at them and am curious about them. I have had the waffle style rubber Max tracks and found them not up to the different types of riding I do plus I felt they put too much pressure on the drive and considering the effort to get them on it amazed me how easy I could throw one off. I never have lost an Adair track. On my Argo Bigfoot With the 14.5 wide tracks I slid sideways up against a boulder once and when it hit the rock it forced the grouser into the side of the tire and it popped the bead. I drove it home and put air in it but that was it. My Max has the 18.5 wide Adair tracks and I have never fully thrown one of these tracks. I was running 2.5 to 3PSI in my tires for the first few months I had them on to see if it would ride better. There should be video of it at the Badlands ATV park in some pretty rutted up conditions and I had no problems. I did almost throw the tracks twice at the low pressure though later. Both times I was trying to counter rotate on rough terrain and the flat side plates that connect the grousers caught on mounds of dirt and as I rotated went to push a track off the rear tire. Both times I caught it and just used my head and turned the machine the opposite way and walked the track back on. Neither time did I loose the bead on any tires or damage them in any way. After the second time doing this I upped the pressure to 5PSI and have had no more issues. To me the UHMW grouser that wraps way around the tire makes the most sense. Tim at Adair really does not advertise it but he has all sorts of cleats, spikes and inserts for his tracks if you need more traction on ice or other surfaces. I am curious as to how well the escargo style track will stay on. As I stated in another thread they just look like a variation of an old Nodwel tracks to me. On the Nodwel the narrow ride tires in the arched grouser with wide belts on either side and a drive sprocket. Makes sense. With the flotation tires of an AATV and not a whole lot of side wrap on the tires how the heck do they stay on when you are running in ruts or turn in rough terrain? Do you need to rely on a bunch of tire pressure? That is one thing that I felt was nice about the Adair tracks compared to the rubber tracks. The Adair tracks seem more forgiving to tire pressure inconsistencies. Sorry, don't mean to sound like an Adair drone but I really have had excellent results with Tim's products and service plus it is so much fun to not get stuck. I love tracks and these Escargo variants with UHMW grousers do look interesting and have me curious. I hope to see videos of them in all sorts of conditions soon.

For the record the first Argo I ever drove did had Adair tracks on it. I test drove it at Beaver Dam Argo. Chris is only 45 minutes from my house. Maybe I will give Chris a call to see if he wants to run up to Doug's (foxvalley) swamp and do some riding in the spring. Ice, mud, stumps, poison sumach. Doesn't get much better (or worse) than that.

Hope this is considered "good" information.

Keith.